He do the walk, he do the walk-a-bout
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By Irocz28
- He do the walk, he do the walk-a-bout
- Created: May 10, 2008
- Last updated: Aug 14, 2008
- After episode: 4.11: Cabin Fever
- Status: Current
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Abaddon knew that flight was going to the island
— Irocz28
I looked at the latest theories and I am surprised nobody picked up on this detail during “Cabin Fever”. It was a simple discussion between Locke and Abaddon in a flashback, but I think it revealed some of the shows unanswered questions.
Abaddon: You know what you need, Mr. Locke? You need to go on a walkabout. You go out into the Australian Outback with nothing more than a knife and your wits.
Locke: I can’t “walkabout” anything. In case you haven’t noticed, I’m a cripple.
Abaddon: Is that what you are, Mr. Locke? I went on my walkabout convinced I was one thing, but I came back another. I found out what I was made of, who I was.
Abaddon: When you’re ready, Mr. Locke you’ll listen to what I’m saying. And then when you and me run into each other again… you’ll owe me one.
This conversation may be telling us a few things. I will break them up into the ever so reader-friendly number format for you all.
1) Abaddon needed to get Locke to the Australian outback to take this walkabout. Did Abaddon really care about John going on this walkabout and “finding himself”? Absolutely not. He needed him to take this trip because he knew it would eventually lead to him taking Oceanic Flight 815 to the island.
What does this tell us? I think it is telling us that the crash of flight 815 was predetermined. It was a set up. Higher forces at play, like Abaddon, knew it was going to happen. How else do you explain Abaddon being so adamant about Locke going on this walkabout?
It doesn’t appear that is was simply Desmond not pushing that exact button at that exact time while that exact flight with those random people on the plane. I know the Producers have said that this was the only reason why the plane crashed, but I’m not buying what they are selling.
Anyway, if Locke was set up to be on that flight, does that mean the others were too? Was the death of Jack’s father just a ploy to get him to Australia? Did the psychic really see the future of Claire going to the island, or was he just told to say that because someone knew for a fact that the plane was going to the island? Were Jin and Sun set up to be on that flight, maybe by Mr. Paik himself? I know we have always speculated about this stuff, but I think we now have more proof that this is the case.
2) The only other logical reason I can think of as to how Abaddon knew this plane was going to crash is that he time traveled. Off the topic, isn’t it funny how we Lost viewers refer to time travel as “logical” now? Anyway, what I am trying to say is that Abaddon knew that flight was going to the island. He either knew beforehand that it was going to happen, or he had already seen it happen and traveled back in time to Locke.
3) Here is another idea that just popped into my head. Abaddon knew Locke was going on a walkabout, but it wasn’t going to be in the Australian Outback. It was going to be on the island. Abaddon tells Locke, “I went on my walkabout convinced I was one thing, but I came back another. I found out what I was made of, who I was.” Isn’t that exactly what is happening to Locke on the island? Maybe this is his walkabout.
Abaddon knew this would happen to Locke. He would be cured and no longer a cripple. His life would have meaning once more. This is why Abaddon tells him “you’ll owe me one”. He is going to try to use this leverage he has on Locke to his advantage somewhere down the line.
That last one was just a random thought. And wasn’t it great to hear the line “Don’t tell me what I can’t do” again? Granted it was from a mid-puberty Locke, but it is still awesome.
Key characters
| Short Name | Full Name | Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|
| John | John Locke | 3.3, 2.17, 1.4, 1.19, 3.13, 3.19, 4.11, & 3” href=”/episodes/theres-no-place-home-parts-2-3/”>4.13 | 1139 |
Key episodes
| # | Title | Aired | Central character | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4.11 | Cabin Fever | 5-8-2008 | John | 180 |
I agree with you. Don’t know what it means yet, but I can’t wait to see the payback! +1
That line is becoming third annoying repetition next to good ‘ole “WaaaaAAAAaaaAAAaaalt” and newly annoying “Claaaaaaaaaaair!”
“They took… my boy…. my SON…”
Both those lines are awesome. I cant get enough of the “Waaaaaaaallllltttttt”.
Iroc, I don’t think Abaddon encouraging Locke to go on a ‘walkabout’ was a means of getting him on Oceanic 815. The Locke that went on the walkabout trip was many years older than the Locke that met Abaddon. Personally, I wonder if Locke just took Abaddon’s words too literally. Abaddon said he should go on a walkabout (I think he was speaking metaphorically!) and Locke saw a ‘walkabout’ holiday and literally went on it!
Agreed about the awesome “Don’t tell me what I can’t do!” moment. The whole was just built up, set-up and pitched for Locke to smack it out of the park!
Iroc, I really like your theory. I really, really like the way your theory explains Christian’s presence on the island. So I wonder if he was in the coffin when it left Australia? Also, I agree that Abaddon wanted Locke to go on a literal Australian walk about. Maybe Abaddon had reason to believe that whatever means Locke took to travel would have him ending up on the island. Perhaps 815 was only fated to crash b/c Locke was on it. I think whatever flight he was on was going to crash on the island. Because either the island, or whomever controls it wanted him there.
good work.
Yeah, lockeko! Why would he describe a literal Australian walkabout (“…you go into the outback with just a knife…”) if he meant something more metaphorical?
It seems like pretty much everyone on the plane was fated to end up on that plane, on that island… for example, what are the chances Jack and Claire, half-siblings, would end up on the same plane unknowingly? And crash onto an island where Jack’s specialized skills are perfectly suited to save someone’s life there… I’ve basically understood all the previous-to-island connections to mean that it’s gonna happen, and some people (Ms. Hawking, Abaddon, Alpert… Widmore?) know about it.
Anyway, Iroc, you should check out my first theory, we have some points in common!
“DON’T TELL ME WHAT I CAN’T DO!” :)
Irocz,
Yes, it certainly looks as though Abaddon expected Locke to be on Flight 815!??? But even if he was successful in planting the idea of the “walkabout,” how would he (Abaddon) be sure of the timing? He wouldn’t, UNLESS…….as you suggested in point # 2 - “he had seen it happen and traveled back in time to Locke.”
What a sweet deal. We take what we know has happened in the present, travel back in time and tell each other what to do, based on what we know is going to happen! And then close with a comment like, “And the next time we meet, you’ll owe me one!” Sweet! Very Sweet!
And I totally agree, it’s funny that we seem to easily accept “time travel” now, where just six months ago, so many of us were adamently opposed to this idea. I think it’s further evidence that the producers of Lost, particularly in their podcasts, aren’t always telling us the truth!
+1
AC, I don’t think you can say he was speaking metaphorically when he literally describes the walkabout as “going into the Australian outback with nothing more than your knife and wits”. He is pretty specific in his description of what he means by “walkabout”.
lockeko, thanks and good point. Maybe the only reason the plane crashed was b/c Locke was on it.
kiss, I checked out your theory. It’s pretty good for a first post. Nice work.
By the way, no compliments on my really creative title of this theory? No Dire Straits fans in here I guess.
Fair enough about the metaphorical thing. And in that same comment you wrote one line that did stand out for me.
“Maybe the only reason the plane crashed was b/c Locke was on it. ”
That sentence has set off a firework in my head. You’ve earned a +1!