A Response to : The others are dharma
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By MidnightDraven
- A Response to : The others are dharma
- Created: Jul 26, 2008
- Last updated: Aug 14, 2008
- After episode: 4.13: There’s No Place Like Home, Parts 2 & 3
- Status: Current
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Ok. Dharma build the Orchid Station. They build it, we presume knowingly, over the donkey wheel. They put the “time travelling tube” in the entrance to the wheel, and it is sealed. Yet, they somehow manage to get someone/thing down there to turn it?
Now, it appears to me that the statue, the mysterious door in Ben’s house (which im sorry, but the supposed location would be obvious from the outside as it sticks into the side of the wall and yet there is no large pretruding area on the side of ben’s house. And he doesnt go down stairs to get to it(i.e not underground) and the wheel are connected.
They are all older that DI, they are all (cept the statue which is broken) hidden by DI construction. If the DI wanted to use such a feature as the wheel, would they really block it up, so the only way to it, is to blow up the part of the station you need for the experiment of the station?
I don’t DI knew about the wheel, in its form, but they knew that area had some significance. Much like the door/wall in Ben’s house. They were using those areas for tests (like scientists would do) to figure out what was going on. Instead of taking the leap of faith and just turning the wheel, or opening the door.
The fact that where Ben went to get to the wheel was icy and cold, we assume the polar bears must have been there for that reason. Ben is going downwards to the wheel. Suggesting he is going underground, into the island. Why would under the island be cold and icy? And why would, whatever happening to Ben to send him to Tunsia, actually send him from a cold place to a hot place? (black and white/ good and evil/ duality etc etc seen on the show).
In the Lost podcast log, you can see the island, and in the reflection of the water is a city. It has been mentioned before in connection with other things. But what if, the island is actually in two? The top is tropical and hot, weather that imitates that of the Caribbean for example. But the bottom of the island, is cold, and icy, and caverness.
That last paragraph is a stretch, but the rest is more like it.
Key characters
| Short Name | Full Name | Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ben | Benjamin Linus | 3.20, 4.9, & 3” href=”/episodes/theres-no-place-home-parts-2-3/”>4.13 | 1726 |
Key episodes
| # | Title | Aired | Central character | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4.13 | There’s No Place Like Home, Parts 2 & 3 | 5-30-2008 | Jack, John, Ben | 358 |
Decent. i dont know. but i liked reading that
I don’t think this theory will turn out to tie in with the show. But I like your creative thoughts.
I’ve also been asking myself how could Dharma have built the Orchid station - which sealed the donkey wheel - and yet have put polar bears down there. The answer is probably that they didn’t do both things at the same time, since the Orchid station is a relatively recent installation in the Dharma timeline. It’s obvious that it’s newer than the rest of the stations by the means by which the tutorial video has been stored: a videotape, compared to the very old films used for the other videos.
So, in my opinion, it’s likely that Dharma experimented with the polar bears for some time, and only eventually built the Orchid station around it.
rasty, I like your thinking! It is newer, that’s for sure. But the idea that is Dharma wanted to use the donkey wheel, they would build on top it, to hide it, seems to me really stupid.
Rasty— Good catch on the video tape v. projection film. Particularly interesting since the discovery of electromagnetisim (the Swan station) came before the discovery of Quantum Mechanics (the Orchid station). It makes sense that Dharma would experiment with electromagnetisim and the Island’s “unique properties” before diving right into worm holes and time travel.
MidnightDraven— I like your idea about the duality of the island. Icy cold on one side, steamy jungle on the other. Just to clarify though— are you suggesting that the polar bears are indigenous to the island, that there are also indigenous people, and that the idiginous people taught the polar bear to the turn the donkey wheel before Dharma ever showed up?
No, polar bears aren’t indigenous to the island (as we see it). Blast door map mentions gene therapy and climate change on polar bears presumbly to get them to live in the jungle. (though why, I have no idea). I do admit though, that if they do come from the island, they come from the cold part of island, and for whatever reason manage to “get through” to the top.
The four toed statue points to a civilisation older than anything else, being on the island. Though I don’t believe they were indigenous per se, they came to the island to make it there home, however many hundreds(thousands?) years ago.
I still don’t think that a polar bear was ever meant to turn the wheel. But, for the sake of argument here, if they were, then yes, the civiisation that lived there, created the wheel, and therefore knew how to use it long before Dharma got there.