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OMG. And i promised in a post yesterday that if Christian Shephard is alive i will eat my keyboard. I don’t want to eat my keyboard..o_0

So was Christian Shephard ever actually dead? One could argue that he is the reason several of the losties were on the flight. Is the reason his body was never recovered because he too walked away from the crash? Maybe this has something to do with the Orchid station and the multiple #15 bunnies.

IF Christian is not dead and somehow got to the island ahead of everyone else…why did he hire Anna Lucia as a bodyguard from LA to Sydney? Man seems bulletproof to me, why would he need a body guard?

I’ve typed two comments and deleted them. Im in denial and am verrry confused. Would appreciate any comments.

Wow… OK. Obviously best mobisode yet.

I have an explanation - mainly because I need an explanation. Christian Shephard, on the Island, alive? How they pull that trick off is going to be seriously interesting - if he is. I remember the moment in White Rabbit when Jack saw his father - standing in the ocean, at the shore. Jack stared at him, he was there, and Jack continued staring and then when Kate turned around he was gone.

He vanished into thin air, literally. Nothing to hide behind. Nowhere to go. That was plausible as long as Christian was a vision. Christian not a vision? A real live flesh and blood person? That moment brings up real problems.

Personally, I think this was a dream. I mean Christian told Vincent to go and wake Jack up, but Jack was already awake by the time Vincent got there. I think Jack had an impossible dream, like how Eko dreamt dead Ana Lucia before he knew she was dead, and managed to be aware of Vincent before he even consciously knew Vincent existed. Maybe I am in denial.

If Christian was really alive, that would be awesome. I was always a fan of Christian being someone behind the mysteriouses.

AC, I don’t want this to be a dream because this is Vincents FB, dude! However I think this is an instance where Vincent has an encounter with whatever (Smokey, Jacob) Eko encountered when he thought he was talking to his brother.

I agree with wtf, its got to be a smokination! The ‘he’s got work to do’ does seem to mirror Walt to Locke in TTLG.

I don’t think it’s “out of line” compared to past encounters. Think Hurely’s Dave and Kate’s horse.

A Vincent vision / flashback? Heck, why not? Pretty cool if you ask me. ;)

But shouldn’t they then have shown someone related to Vincent? Every time, someone got a (smokey-)vision, they saw something closely related to them. Then why Christian? Just to confuse us? I think they got what they want ;-)

wtf, I saw that post about you’re eating your keyboard if Christian is alive. ha ha. I am not convinced yet that he is? I remember when watching “Catch 22” for the first time, and how I was sure that Charlie was killed by that arrow! We saw after that beginning that it was just a flash that Desmond had. I personally like the idea of him being alive,but on the other hand would feel bad if you had to eat your keyboard .Vincent’s Flash back ! ;- ]

This is kind of not about that,but in a way it is? What I am saying is in that clip,we almost see that part about the most discussed watch on another post. Now that I think about it ,I wonder if that was the original clip of Jack from the “Pilot” And If it was I wonder ,if it could have been intentional not to show when he starts getting up?

This site has almost as many mysteries on it as Lost does .Anyways, I was wondering on that post “The Watch” Why did nicked keep referring to you as “Annie”?…. . +1

Good point sYnie.

WTF - I think we’re both in agreement we don’t want Christian to actually be alive. In that respect, if this is Vincent’s encounter with Smokey (and that’s the explanation) then so be it. Although the point made that Smokey encounter’s involve personal meetings is valid and not easily ignorable.

Still, how many Lost viewers watch these mobisodes? A revelation of this magnitude - that Christian is alive on the Island - to be given out on such a small scale seems incongruous. That kind of reveal could have appeared at the end of an episode and absolutely floored every viewer; this more than anything makes me sure it’s another mind-mess from the creators and that, no matter the explanation, Christian is genuinely dead. I think I’ll probably be annoyed if it’s not the case. . .

WOW! I was eating my lunch when watching this and I nearly chocked! LOL That mobisode was amazing and no I don’t think it’s Vincent’s vision. How can some one (or some dog) see a vision about some total stranger?!

I personally always thought Christian is alive because of the flash forward and because of the empty coffin. His body was shown to Jack! True! But it could be one of those spiders (or whatever it was) that makes ur body appear dead! The person showing the so called body to Jack could be related to the Island. Maybe him sitting on seat 23 on the plane was intentional because somehow (maybe because of someone’s vision) they knew that the person sitting on that chair will stay alive and hence Cindy giving Jack the extra alcoholic drinks! O man I’m just writing whatever comes into my busy mind. Ignore it if it does not make any sense. I’m still in shock after seeing that mobisode.

And yes katesawjack I think my “The watch” post might now be something to look into!

At first when i saw this, I wondered if Christian was really dead, but I’m inclined to think he was actually Smokey. It might have been Vincents’ flashback (finally!), but that doesn’t mean it has to be Vincents’ Smokey. Just as Sawyer saw Kate’s horse, so could Vincent have seen Jack’s Christian. Would Jack have had to be conscious for Smokey to read him and then form into Christian ? I’m thinking not. To me it looks like Smokey pulls the vision from unconcious Jack and then finds Vincent. What I thought remarkable was the way he seemed to plant what he wanted into Vincents mind. I mean, Vincent is a smart dog, but I doubt if he would have understood the terminology or Jack’s name, etc used by Christian. It was like mind communication.

That was definitely the best of the mobisodes, and also the easiest one to figure out! No worries about eating your keyboard, WTF. Christian Shephard is in fact DEAD!

It is well known that animals, especially dogs have strong psychic abilities, so I believe that Christian (in spirit form) was psychically communicating and utilizing Vincent to help Jack. No wonder we seldom see Vincent. With all of the dead people on “the island” he must be one busy doggie!

Dab, you know, that could actually explain a lot of Vincents behavior! I know you were kinda joking, but if any of the “dead” did want an errand acomplished, what better way than an unquestioning, obediant, friendly dog who won’t panic like a human would? I thought it strange how Vincent always seemed to be a messenger, and how he didn’t stick around Walt nearly enough considering he was Walt’s dog.

There is something I noticed in that mobisode about two similarities dealing with appearances of people that were either thougt to be dead or not on the island? When John was in the mass grave after Ben shot him ,Walt appeared and told him you’ve got work to do! That is the same thing that Christian said at the end of the mobisode! “He’s got work to do” Coincidence? I think that it could be a clue ,that it is indeed “Smokie taking on human form.

Ozzzig Good call, but I was only half joking about that! You make excellent points, which was what I was getting at. Vincent is always MIA, so now we know why!

KSJ, It would appear that “the dead” on “the island” are assisting the process in some capacity.

SamiLost, I apologize for not crediting that post to you,I was going to put in the link,but forgot to do it. I do think you may be on to something with the watch. :)

katesawjack, wtfsignmeup is Annie right? :) maybe my mistake! sorry…

anyway…wow…i just saw the mobisode…damn,so cool, this is like the pre-episode ….and the best mobisode…with the room 23!

well, now we know some things

Vincent IS special…A dog can listen good, but not that good…he does exactly as asked..although Jack is already awake when Vincent shows up ( like AngeloComet said)

It could be indeed that Smokey takes human forms, but why does Vincent runs up so happy to Christian?, like he knows him.

Well, in time we’ll find out what’s up with all that…!

One question ,I still have about the visions that people have is that I believe in almost every case they are seen by the person that has a connection. What about Sawyer also seeing Kate’s horse also? With Hurley (only) seeing Dave. Jack(only) seeing his Dad? Another one I am not sure about is Shannon seeing Walt ,just before she was shot by Ana-Lucia, I think that Sayid may have said he saw Walt too?…

nicked ,That is why I was confused Annie is in Rhode Island and wtfsignmeup is in Australia. There is only one Annie79. And they are both very special individuals! :)

Wow, best one yet. I’m still on the Christian is dead team.

Yea, for Vincent’s first flashback and first encounter with Smokey, I think. That part seems pretty clear to me. What doesn’t is how Vincent understood every word that Christian/Smokey said to him. That’s just not normal. At least not in any of the dogs I’ve owned!

So. now we have and early encounter with Vincent and Smokey (the earliest, as far as I can tell) and a dog who understands English perfectly after just crash landing without so much as a scratch on him.

Why would Smokey choose Christian to show himself to Vincent? And why Vincent?

I’m more confused now that I was before I watched it…

Um, I think people are assuming “Smokey” is showing himself to Vincent as Christian! I don’t believe “Smokey” has anything to do with this particular part of the equation.

Part of the confusion is sometimes “Smokey” takes on human form, and sometimes we see the actual spirit of the person who is dead. That is left up to the viewer to determine, which is which.

Christian IS dead! I believe it is his spirit that is communicating directly with Vincent! He wants Vincent to arouse Jack, because Jack has a lot of work to do with injured passengers, etc.

I believe it is that simple!

So, what is Vincent seeing? That cleared it up a little, but I’m still confused. Help!

Okay, I read it over again. You’re saying Smokey had nothing to do with this at all, right.

It is the actual spirit of Christian that calls to Vincent and Vincent sees him and goes to find Jack.

Have I got it?

You got it, Annie!

Dab, If I I am reading you correctly then the *horse that was seen by both Kate and Sawyer would be Smokey .As Sawyer would have no memory of that horse. And then the vision of Christian would be his spirit. If so, it is interesting that Jack and Vincent would both see him. Is that a fair example….

Bring back Nikki and Paulo (Expose was not just filler!) because we may be looking at another use of the Medusa Spider!

Christian could have been in the coffin and alive but using a pet spider to make his body appear dead. If Christian is an important player and he knows the island he may very likely know the spider as well. When Jack sees the body in Australia, he wouldn’t be able to tell that he is still alive. The coffin was later empty. Hmmm… need to consider further.

Very Interesting!

KSJ; I will leave it up to each individual to determine who they think is “in spirit form” and who they believe “smokey” to be, but I guess it’s a fair example. My comments are specifically related to THIS mobisode, however!

Thanks for responding Dab. :)

Is everyone absolutely positive that Christian’s only son on the island is Jack? Is it possible that Christian has another son on the island??? Gives new meaning to the Bad Twin, ah?

Claire might not be the only love child out there…

TreeSneakers: I think Christian was talking about Jack specifically, even mentions him laying over there in the bamboo. BUT, yes, I have considered that very thing. I always wondered if Jack and Sawyer would turn out to be fraternal twins, various scenarios possible with that. No evidence for it though, I just thought what an ironic twist, both in love with Kate…

Neither, alive nor dead, but on a television show and something called webisodes.

If whoever it was needs a lawyer re: the eating of a keyboard, let me know.

also: Ross and Rachel also don’t live in New York.

You know, I like the idea of the spider (that was put into the story for a reason) and I also like the Bad Twin reference. I read the book and I guess that could be somewhat plausable. However, this mobisode strikes a bad note with me. I realized you can’t believe everything you see with this show.

For once, I don’t know what to say or think, but I think the mobisode with Juliet titled “The Envelope” is more important.

So Vincent had a vision, what’s the big deal :)

The only revelation here could be that Vincent knew Christian from somewhere. I think they just tried to confuse and amuse us.

And if Vincent never knew Christian, that means that these visions are more powerful than just making you recall your memories by reflecting them like in a dream but make you see people you never knew.

I’d say pass the Kool-Aid, but I have seen the effects, so I’ll just say, no thanks!

Dab, I like the idea that i’is Christians spirit, but the missing body bothers me.

KSJ, if Nicked wants me to be Annie thats fine with me( if Annie doesn’t mind :)

Retro, thanks for the offer of legal help should I need it, and I’m pretty sure Ross and Rachel are still living in New York : P

As for this mobisode..Vincent freaks the hell out of me !

wtf , Just trying to keep it real. I shouldn’t have butted in like that. I just felt you were not getting credit for your assistance in helping nicked on posting a picture. :)

Thanks KSJ, to be honest I was confused at being called Annie :)

Now that we have had a Vincent flashback with this, I hope this means we’ll get more in the actual show. If only he could talk.

AHHH, something here is frustrating me horribly!!! What makes you guys think that these “Missing Pieces” are Flashbacks?!? Why can’t they just be instances? Why does this have to be a Vincent Flashback? Vincent never had one to begin with. In the Juliet “Envelope” one what makes you think it is a Juliet flashback and not Amelia’s? Or Ethan’s when he gives Jack the medicine? I highly doubt this is a Vincent flashback. I highly doubt any of these are flashbacks. They are missing instances that we never saw. Thank you. I had to say that.

JW, get over it :) I know this is just a missing piece, but let the dog have a freakin flashback. He’s (she) worked on the show for 4 years…that’s 28 dog years !

This is the first mobisode that I have called flashback, probably because it’s at Vincents level and through his eyes at the beginning.

N1! wtf, only 3 more days…… I think we just might make it !

I was going to make a point a couple of weeks ago……..but i would say that wouldnt i?….about nikki and paulo only being introduced so we could find out about this spider,because i think the writers were going to do it in their pre planed way then someone came up with the whole burried alive story which was so cool,when they realised they couldnt kill off any of the major players on the island, they came up with Nikki and Paulo.It would explain their rushed introduction. I really believe christian is alive and that spider is the reason why.It just seems so obvious……to me anyway.

I think this “flash” is being experienced by Jack, just before he wakes up. Somewhat similar to Locke in his sweat tent. The Island speaks to people using characters from their past.

I don’t believe that Christian faked his death, crashed on the island and now walks around hiding from everyone.

On the other hand, he is the only one arriving on the island already dead. Knowing the strange properties of the island, who knows what happens in that case. Some people get cured… perhaps some get resurrected.

Is it just me or do we see smokey moving away from Vincent (through the greenery -16 secs) just before he finds Christian ?

Katesawjack no need to apologize! Thanx to referring to my post :-)

I still believe that Christian is alive and he was just bitten by one of those spiders to appear dead. In my opinion the reason why Christian went to Australia was not simply because of Jack. He was involved with Hanso foundation and got a message from them. He knew he had to board that plane and that he will never see his family anymore. That’s why he went to Clair’s mum (to undo some of the mistakes that he’s done). He had no idea that Jack will fly to Autralia for him. The plan was boarding Oceanic 815 and with the help of the pilot landing on the island. However, no one had to look for him. So he was to be named dead before boarding the plane. By the time they got to the island he would be well awake. But then something happened. Jack went to Austalia and Hanso whose objective was sending Christian to the island with Jack from the very beginning showed him his father’s body. Now, what Desmond did (not pushing the button and making the plane to crash) ruined their plan (whatever it was). That’s what I think anyway!

I have to agree with Iabgo. The most compelling explanation of this Mobisode is that it is Jack’s dream prior to waking up. A few points bring me to this.

(i) Although the scene begins apparently from Vincent’s perspective, the character/apparition that is seen by Vincent is a character heretofore unrelated to him — Christian Shepard. That character/apparition, however, is the father of the only other character in the scene…Jack.

(ii) After seeing Christian, the remainder of the clip until Jack awakes is seen through the eyes of Christian Shepard (or a pan out). In fact, when the dog trots back through the woods, we are not returned to a first-person narrative of the dog, rather we remain fixed on Christian Shepard. Its as if the viewer is fixated on Christian Sheperd….the exact person Jack would fixate on in a vision.

(iii) Jack awakes concomitant with the phrase … “he has work to do” … as if spurred to wake by these words.

(iv) We are treated to Jack waking up through the perspective of Jack, not Vincent. Had this been Vincent’s image, why didn’t we see Vincent approaching Jack??? Rather, we are treated to a Jack awakening and then seeing Vincent…not vice versa. This seems to indicate to me that Jack was having a vision while unconscious…not that Vincent can suddenly understand directions in English like Lassie.

Vincent could have seen Chris. Just like Shannon, Sayid, and Locke saw Walt.