Looking at Ben as Game Theorist
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By retroactiveman
- Looking at Ben as Game Theorist
- Created: Apr 29, 2008
- Last updated: Aug 14, 2008
- After episode: 4.9: The Shape of Things to Come
- Status: Current
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Survival is a contingent fact over which there is choice, and that choice is exercised in favor of survival (rather than the creation of a ‘suicide club.’ The basic contingencies of life furnish ‘a common element in the law and convential morality of all societies.’ HLA Hart
— retroactiveman
4.9 has spawned quite a few posts focusing on games and rules. Of these posts some have chosen to cast the show in the mold of game, white v black, Ben v Widmore, Widmore v Ben, some going so far as to take an instrumental view of characters in the show (Locke a bishop; I posted a piece referring to pawn sacrifices analogizing Alex to a pawn).
This totalizing approach is obviously wrong. Its not all about a game, as its equally not all about time travel, Wayne Rooney, quantum physics, religion, philosophy, valéry giscard d’estaing….
However, the importance of games and game theory should not be discounted.
Thinking along these lines might lead to surprising results.
Realizing that Ben’s character is game theorist suggests a) Penelope Widmore’s contemplated death is not the product of revenge, and b) considering Ben’s character as game theorist means necessarily that Penny must be an obstacle.
Game theory is the study of the ways in which strategic interactions among rational players produce outcomes with respect to the preferences of those players, none of which might have been intended by any of them. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/game-theory/#Mot.
Are Ben and Widmore playing a game? I think that it’s safe to say that Ben and Widmore are playing games—they both want some kind of payoff that appears to be un-sharable, but I’m not sure that they are playing the same game. Playing the same game would require all participants to have a set of all possible moves from which all participants could possibly make. Ben and Widmore may be playing by the same rules, or they might not be.
What we know is that Ben characterizes Keamy’s behavior as rule changing; Widmore imputes Ben as responsible for Alex’s death. This disagreement would suggest that they are not playing by the same rules (or might not be talking about the same death).
Widmore is raw, ugly capitalism. Ben is the game theorist. He is the actor trading on people’s preferences, and basing his future action in line with his perfect information of their preferences (he knew Keamy was a killer, Keamy killed, would anybody especially Ben be surprised by this result.
Why would Ben, in unilaterally claiming that Widmore has changed a rule, impose a rule framework when that imposition would seem to impose additional constraints on his behavior?
Because through a framework of rules he procures both justification in seeking the death of Penelope as well as authority among the coalition he his assembling to mount this attack.
As Hobbes pointed out, the fundamental justification for coercive authority is peoples’ own need to protect themselves from social dilemmas, as a world devoid of authority consistently offers only bad choices, less than optimal utility. Id. The offer of protection plays out as an offer of a logical choice between two options. People, for various individual reasons will choose the option that will bring them the greatest utility (whether or not this utility actually plays out).
Here, both options are monstrous, but the human monster is of the daughter slaughtering variety. Ben also demonstrates that he also can distribute justice through the smoke monster; which would help people realize the benefit of cooperation or risk punishment by the Leviathan.
With Sayid, Ben is able to promise the possibility of justice for his wife’s death which is the preference of Sayid’s tortured soul. Widmore’s agents have violated the same rule with respect to both of them.
The rules Ben plays by, the good guys rules, give Ben his new coalition on the island, his target (Penelope, stylized as retributive justice for the rule changing crime), and his agent to take the shot Sayid. In waging war against the epitome of capitalism, maybe war must be waged this way.
In short, Ben is given authority through scrupulous game playing.
Given that Ben is a game theorist, it would make absolutely no sense to have Penelope’s murder be mere blood lust. Ben’s target is the island. Ben’s and Widmore’s exchange (you’ll never find the island, nor will you) suggest that the island is still what they are after. Because the island is Ben’s problem this problem needs a rational solution.
Penelope then must be crucial to acquisition of the island, and her death must be necessary to Ben getting it. Who knows, Penelope herself may be now “running” the island. (Imagine Ben repels Keamy, but meanwhile Penny tracks down Gault’s boat with her own crew with her own force, this force overtakes the island, and Ben pushed to the orchid, using it as a last ditch escape hatch, after battling Marvin Candle in hand to hand combat, cutting off his harm and then stealing his jacket, before teleporting to Tunisia (this will happen, I’m sure of it)). Regardless, her role with respect to the island will become critical, which will necessitate her death. (Just as a side note, it would make sense to have Desmond Hume the philosopher fall in love with ‘the economist’ of a free market economy.)
Lost is not a game. But Ben plays games. The overwhelming gamey taste this episode had paints his character, tells us who he is, who he is supposed to be, and who he will be in the future. (See Jazprof’s excellent Group 1 posts which respects the individual character of episodes critically, which focus on the ideas latent behind characters by putting them in their larger social contexts, and which in general provide something to think about opposed to the empirical dribble that permeates certain overviews regularly appearing on this site). While this game is a big game, it is the game of one small man’s life, living it so.
Key characters
| Short Name | Full Name | Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ben | Benjamin Linus | 3.20, 4.9, & 3” href=”/episodes/theres-no-place-home-parts-2-3/”>4.13 | 1726 |
Key episodes
| # | Title | Aired | Central character | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4.9 | The Shape of Things to Come | 4-24-2008 | Ben | 259 |
Key events
| Theme | Relevant Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|
| Four Toed Statue | 204 |
Key locations
| Theme | Relevant Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|
| Barracks | 3.19, 4.8, 3.1, 2.21, 3.20, 4.6, 3.16, 3.12, 3.13, 3.15, 4.3, 4.4 | 97 |
I think your point B) is absolutely right. Penny’s removal from ‘the game’ does provide Ben further advantage. If she genuinely is conducting her own Island/Desmond search then she presents a significant problem.
However, whilst I see your argument to position Ben as pure game theorist, I can’t help but feel this ignores the human being. To put it this way: Knowing who shot his daughter, can I really accept that not a single part of Ben wants to exact some “eye for an eye” retribution?
I like to invest in Ben as more than the all-knowing, robot mastermind. (We’re back to the age-old debate about Ben’s fallibility!)
+1 never-the-less.
It is an interesting idea, and I like what’s it’s building to. Perhaps you could rethink the whole concept and approach it from a different perspective, say assume that Penny isn’t very significant at all or something. She may very well be, but in either case I think it may be safe to say that Ben was never intending to include her as part of his plans. It makes me wonder more why Ben chose to adopt Alex more than anything. After all Penny is Widmore’s natural daughter, so far as we know.
Incidentally I’ve made a unique theory of my own which might somewhat suggest what they’re playing for. I’m not claiming it to be “the answer” but it occured to me and thought it was worth putting up. Check it out. http://lost-theories.com/theories/2008/apr/28/hive-mind-expanded/
I like you retro, but to be perfectly honest, most of this went right over my head. I mean, I had to read the quote alone three times to understand it. AC might be able to follow, but if I don’t understand it, then 99% of the typical Lost viewers won’t get it either. And that alone makes me think this is not the route the writers/producers will take. Sorry. Just trying to keep it real.
Retro this is not an attack but you state Widmore’s comments: you’ll never find the island means you’ll never kill Penny.
What was actually said
BEN: I’m here, Charles, to tell you that I’m going to kill your daughter. Penelope, is it? And once she’s gone… once she’s dead… then you’ll understand how I feel. And you’ll wish you hadn’t changed the rules.
(Widmore shifts in his bed.)
widmore: You’ll never find her.
(Ben turns to leave.)
widmore: That island’s mine, Benjamin. It always was. It will be again.
BEN: (Turning) But you’ll never find it.
widmore: Then I suppose the hunt is on for both of us.
Ben says to Widmore you’ll never find the island not the otehr way round!
sorry I wasnt quoting, i was just imagining what the comments could have meant by putting words into Widmore’s mouth
I think the prize for both of them is island
thats all, (no need to approach me softly)
Also Lojozz thanks for the heads up. I ve removed that sentence from my theory, as it was merely speculative and didnt affect its substance.
Retroactiveman, your theory offers brilliant insight into the character and motivation of Ben, in addition to Widmore.
It also provides the overall picture of how Ben and Widmore are approaching their individual quest for control of “the island”, and the importance of “the death”, and how that accommodates Ben to advance and further his plans. Penny, I believe is crucial to Ben’s quest, as he believes she can advance his position.
What remains unknown to us, is if Ben is playing by his own rules of the game, or at the behest of a higher power, who has imposed them.
And, more importantly, is Ben bending those rules by his own devices to advance himself, but still operating within the margin of the accepted guidelines of such.
Very enjoyable read and an outstanding theory! +1