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sleepz: Good theory and I was with you right until you tried to switch Waaaaalat for Locke.

I think it’s entirely possible Waaaaalt came on the helicopter with Naomi, good call. But I still think that whatever he told Locke was important enough for Locke to kill Naomi.

Of course, I could be wrong, gave you a +1 for a good theory anyway!!

I don’t see why this couldn’t be a possibility. The time span from Naomi’s arrival to Walt’s appearance was 3 or 4 days I think.

That would mean Walt would have had to spend a few days on his own on the island but that’s not an impossible feat.

I think it is a logical conclusion and fresh idea. Plus 1.

Agreed sleepz, good theory. Probably the most logical explanation so far….

….but how about this? This isn’t the first time Walt has been seen on the island, can those sightings be explained so easily???

+1 though!

Sham: I wasn’t saying it wasn’t a possibility. In fact I was agreeing with that part.

I just don’t think it was Walt that killed Naomi. :-) I think it’s a good theory too, gave him a +1 myself!

Annie,

I was still in the process of typing my reply so I hadn’t even read your response. It was purely a reply to the theory. See how close the post times are?

So it’s cool :) I also agree that Walt probably didn’t throw the knife but there is no way to prove it either way.

Annie I think Locke teaching Walt to throw the knives in season 1 will come back to prove the point, remember how good a shot Walt was.

I can’t get it in my head that Locke would kill anyone, Also why throw the knife when he had a gun, chance of fatality would be much greater with a gun. No I’m sticking to Walt being the thrower.

gazzap, I don’t know that we have seen a vision of Walt since he left with Michael. I would have to check the episodes though.

sleepz: I know that scene was strange and Locke acted strange, so I can see why you think that.

We’ll agree to disagree on this one and see what happens. :-)

Sham: You fast typer you! Yes, I can see how that happened.

i think this idea is great i will be in the minority here but i hope it was walt who threw the knife think it would be out of character for Locke and remember Locke has taught Walt how to throw knives! +1

Would Walt really try and kill someone? Why could he not use his telephathy? Walt brings things back to life (the bird, Locke) not kill them.

In your theory, where is Michael?

Love it!! I hadn’t thought of this possibility but it does make a lot of sense. +1 from me.

I love this explanation. Very logical, and I fully agree that Walt threw the knife. If Walt’s information could drive Locke to kill as a last resort, he would’ve killed Jack as well. If you think about it, he’s known Jack for only 90 days, and I think keeping his ability to walk is much more important to him as he is afraid to go against what he believes is best for the island.

Also, there was that episode that showed Locke teaching Walt how to throw knives, and he was very good at it. Synchronicity would prevail if Walt learning that ability went to use in this situation.

very possible.

I agree with tree_sneakers thoughts about Waaalt! Not only for the reasons he/she stated, but also because I have a hard time believing the producers would have a kid kill someone.

Wait a sec. Did I not see Locke throw the knife? Or at least, we saw the knife lodged in Naomi, and Locke in a post-throw motion?

Like Annie, I liked the theory until the Walt switcheroo. I’m even more surprised by the level of acceptance it’s getting. Am I misunderstanding something?

sleepz, i’ll admit at first i thought this was a terrible idea, but after reading the whole thing it actually could make sense. naomi sees mikhail’s dharma garb and tells him in another language (not her native tongue) that “i’m not the only one”….that tells me she’s dharma as well as the freighter….and the timing with Walt could fit in nicely.

the only thing that contradicts this for me is how calm and creepy Walt was when he told Locke to get up out of the pit. wouldn’t the normal Walt be a little concerned that John was shot and paralyzed, not to mention call him “Mr. Locke” like before? that pointed to something with jacob or the island in my mind, but who knows what that kid went through when him and michael left the island?

I agree with sleepz and a few others…..I think Walt threw the knife for the reasons stated above.

YAE - good points dood you present a good argument with regard to Walt’s calmness I will have to think about this some more.

Karmavore - not sure what you don’t understand the acceptance of the theory or the acceptance that maybe Locke’s didn’t throw the knife. Dood he had a gun why throw a knife ?????

—reasons for Walt throwing the knife: 1.)Locke taught him and he was good at it. 2.)Locke had a GUN, why throw a knife? 3.)the producers could have bent Locke over on purpose to make us think he was in post-throwing motion, heck, the guy was just shot and had to walk through the jungle. 4.)Locke himself is not a killer (although he’s been progressing that way and could easily be accused of being his dad’s true murderer)

—reasons for Locke throwing the knife: 1.)Locke very well could have been in post-throwing motion. 2.)Walt is just a kid. 3.)Walt is nowhere to be seen when we saw Locke

Good list of pros and cons YouAllEverybody.

I guess we all will just have to wait for at least 5 months; maybe longer.

GACK! Someone hold me! :)

wow, 5 months when all other shows are starting in the next two weeks….that’s borderline depressing.

Sleepz I love the theory. The one thing I disagree with is about Walt throwing the knife. Yes Locke taught him to throw a knife, and yes he is very accurate, but I have to admit I don’t think the producers would Have a kid kill someone in cold blood. Also, (this comes from personal experience with hand to hand weapons) Locke body positioning, when the camera pans to him after Naomi is knifed, is in a post throwing position. I have watched the scene over and over. I still believe that Locke killed Naomi. I believe this was possible because Locke didn’t know Naomi, he had never even seen her. I believe that the situation was dire enough for him to be able to do it. The argument here is then why didn’t he kill Jack then. The way I see it is Locke knows Jack he is a friend (aquaintence is a better word) he has vested time and feelings for Jack. It’s the same reason Locke couldn’t kill Eddie at the commune. He had vested feeling tword the person. Naomi he had never seen or talked to. It’s a lot easier to kill someone you don’t know from behind than it is to kill a friend face to face. Just my thoughts on it but I really like you ideas sleepz +1

It’s an intriguing possibility sleepz, and I liked the reminder of Walt’s knife-throwing ability.

IMHO…if Locke had thrown the knife, we would have seen him actually throw the knife. Like we saw Hurley run over the guys on the beach. Like we saw Sawyer kill Friendly. But we didn’t actually see Locke throw the knife. And I think it’s a long shot (pardon the pun) that it’s just coincidence that we didn’t see him throw the knife. My money is on Walt.

Walt’s flashbacks are going to be MESSED UP.

I dont think Walt threw the Knife.Locke gave Walt one lesson and was quickly jumped on by Michael. To me the scene was to indicate that psychic powers were more easily manifested on the island and that walts abilities were powerful.(Locke says to Michael “Walts different”). Original thinking ,that Walt was in the helicopter with Naomi. +1

Sleepz,

I love the theory! Don’t know who threw the knife, but I love the idea that Walt may have been on the helicopter with Naomi. The only question is, was he he forced to go - or did he volunteer in order to get back to the island and help his friends? Someone also asked “where’s Michael in this theory?” I think Michael and Walt were captured by “whoever” is on the freighter, and that’s where Michael is. +1

Alice, completely agree on the Michael thing, or maybe on another helicopter somewhere else looking for the island ???

and no one would have noticed Walt throwing the knife? No one there seemed to look nowhere else but at Locke & Jack.

Also, why would Walt come with Naomi? If he thinks she had good intentions, why run away and leave Naomi behind? Why not join the Losties earlier?

Sorry sleepz, my always sceptical mind really cannot believe it :)

I was just watching a through the looking glass vid on youtube and when Naomis death scene came on my 11 year old son said he thinks Walt did it :o

wtf: if he says so, then it must be true! :)

sleepz: I suppose it’s possible, although, I am under the impression that Walt’s appearance to Locke, is NOT in the physical sense! I believe Naomi stated to Mikhail, “that she was not alone”. Jack has contacted her ship, and spoken to Minkowski. This is who she was referring to.

I agree with dab that Walts appearance was not in the physical sense. The way he just stood at the top of the pit without offering physical assistance points to him being an apparition of some sort imo.

Fun to think about … I hadn’t considered Walt’s knife throwing ability … and I agree - Good list YouAllEverybody

To you list of reasons for Walt throwing the knife, I would add that he is capabable of arson - kids can do extreme things in their panic. Also - Did he (through bilocation) or a vision of him lead Shannon to her death? If so - he could be capable of such things…

Also “The boy is more than we bargained for” by Ben - suggests that something useful must have come from his kidnapping - what was it?

Did Ben planned to be stabbed? If Walt stabbed Ben Whose “side” would he be on? Is this really part of the power struggle between Locke and Ben? - Ben shot John in a place that wouldn’t kill him - somewhere other than in the head or heart or such. I think he inteded for John to survive.

If Walt is on Locke’s side - what is the reason he threw the knife? But also - why would he now be on Locke’s side when he freaked out earlier and told Locke not to open the hatch because of the numbers?

If Walt is on Ben’s side - was he brainwashed? For those who believe in implant theories - was there some kind of thing implanted in Walt (like there was in Claire) that was set to make him come back on the helicopter?

Inquiring minds want to know….

Sleepz, I love ur theories. You always post what your thoughts are, regardless of how you expect them to be perceived. If Walt was on the helicopter, it makes me wonder, where the hell is Michael? It also changes many previous thoughts about Walt standing over Locke being an apparition. If that was really Walt in the flesh, I believe that your theory may possibly prove true in the future. But who knows. Good thoughts.

Having re watched that scene I think it clearly shows Locke threw the knife from his followed through position. I presume they didn’t show it to add a bit of confusion.

You guys are, aware, aren’t you that

1. Walt was not in the scene where Naomi got it in the back

2. Walt came to Locke telling him that he had work to do. If Walt was going to do his own stabbing, it seems sort of pointless to bring Locke back from the brink of death.

3. Again. Walt was not in that scene.

Is the theory now that Walt was invisible, but threw a visible knife, and brought Locke along to ACT like it was Locke who threw it, even though Locke was perfectly capable of throwing the knife himself? So now, Walt is invisible, godlike, and able to exert his will, but still needs Locke to take the blame? And still can’t stop Jack?

This theory is at odds with logic, and the facts of what we all saw.

Oh, and we now have 12 year olds leading rescue operations? Or was he simply the navigator? Or did he fly the helicopter?

And did the rabbis and wise men gather around him at the Temple during Passover, too?

Everybody here is being polite. I want to be polite. But when it makes no sense, it makes no sense. Sorry.

Y’know sometimes willsdad is like everybodys dad. Here you guys are just playing in the sandbox making your little sandcastles, and now, here comes dad! Pay attention! Make sense!

So, yeah the theory is contradicts what was on TV, and makes no sense, but, hey, this is playtime. We’ll make sense during working hours.

I give you a plus one, but be warned, it is just a playtime plus one.