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I don’t believe that Libby is Penny’s sister. It would be too much of a risk. Chances are indeed high that Penny has a photograph of her sister laying somewhere in her house, or talked about her to Desmond … Desmond might have known she was her sister.

But I like what you say about the healing. Maybe she was insane on the plane, and the island healed her insanity… I never thought of that. +1 just for that! :)

Also…the accents don’t match up.

…”the Producers said the only way to reveal who Libby is… is to show her in the backstory of a character who is NOT on the island.” …

My money is on Christian. He seems to be linked to most of the Losties, one way or the other. But your idea is original, and you might well be right, so I’m throwing a +1 there.

Oh, you covered that…sorry, dude.

thanks guys,

i know their accents are different but then if Libby has been away for so long, the forgotten daughter almost her accent would have been lost throughout the years

not sure, just an idea i had

“Yes, Libby is American or at least spent most of her life in America, probably institutionalized - which explains why Desmond might not have ever known Penny had a sister. ” - did you add this after my comment??? :)

Anyway.. what i’m saying is.. If Widmore wanted to use Libby to trick Desmond, it would not be a good idea. Even though she’s not around, maybe Penny would have talked about her or have a picture laying around. Why would Widmore take such a risk to use Libby? Why not hire an actor or something?

well, we dont know to what extent libby in mental, i mean she convinced people on the island she was a pychiatrist, she acted out that very well, so maybe no need for an actor, maybe the risk isnt there, poeple with that sort of condition can convinve even themselves they are what they want to be

er, no i added all the comments in one go by the way

Maybe even Penny doesn’t know she has a sister? Surely Mr widmore could afford a better place to put Libby than the same mental home Hurley was at unless he put her there to hide her?

The question I ask myself about Libby is not so much who she’s related with, but… WHAT DOES SHE WANT FROM HURLEY?!?

Don’t tell me she falls for him for his good looks…

maybe she’s into fat love

People can feel love for more reasons than just looks maybe Libby saw in Hurley his kindness and vulnerability and fell for that. Also on a different note many people consider Jorge Garcia as a sex symbol!

jamtay: that sounds very noble of you, but I really think she’s into something… same hospital as Hurley, same plane as Hurley, same island as Hurley and now she flirts with him? be realistic man…

So I guess you are using one of the great lines from the show Do not confuse coincidence with fate! My question is then what did Libby want from Hurley?

jamtay: exactly.. that was my question a few lines above “The question I ask myself about Libby is not so much who she’s related with, but… WHAT DOES SHE WANT FROM HURLEY?!? ”

Well assuming she didn’t fall for him, I guess she doesn’t want him dead cos she could have let him jump during Dave so perhaps its to do with the numbers maybe when she was at the mental home she was faking insanity to get closer to Leonard and then when the numbers were passed on so to speak perhaps she went after Hurley?

well if libby is attached somehow to dharma as per cominc con and producers saying we werent barking up the wrong tree, and assuming widmore has some attachment to hanso which funded dharma i think it is likely she is connected to widmore

what does she want from Hurley - if not his looks then what about his money!!! why, i dont know!!!!!!!!

Maybe Penny doesn’t know she has a sister. Libby could have been diagnosed as being insane at a young age and sent away (unlikely) Or Libby could be a child from an affair and Penny doesn’t know about her.

+1

In the flashbacks, Libby seemed to be well off didn’t she? Maybe she wanted Hurley for his money but that doesn’t seem right. Afterall she did GIVE Desmond a sailboat.

Maybe Libby and Claire and Jack are all siblings. Maybe Libby’s mom is Jacks mom…. sorry… it just all sounds a little too speculative to me. It is plausible at the most…I’ll admit that. I think you guys are thrown because they are both blondes - in which case Claire, Libby, Penny and Juliet are all sisters. ; )

love the idea they arev related, +1 from me for this

i dont think she is related to jack, but there is a connection there as i stated above to the widmores

I never thought about the island being able to heal mental illness - for some reason I was stuck on physical. That was interesting.

But I like the angle Nickee mentioned that maybe Penny doesn’t know she has a sister. Because if she did, I’m sure she would have mentioned it to Des.

Yeah…Libby’s Dharma. She’s a Bond chick. Deliver the boat to Des, go under cover and keep tabs on Hurley at the psycho ward, find out what these numbers mean, get on the plane and follow them if you have to, pretend to be a shrink so you can extractinfo from Claire in a totally believable fashion. It all adds up.

Dudes! We got moles in stereo! Kate and Libby.

desmond and libby never met xiv

Ooh, that makes perfect sense Kat…that she was after hurley for revenge!

stip: actually… now I remember that we saw Libby in the airport (flashback) and she looked normal to me. So she must not have been mentally ill when she boarded the plane, so I don’t think the Island healed her :(

Lostpedia says: “After this, the only information we know about Libby’s past is that she intervened during a heated conversation between Eko and Charlotte Malkin in Sydney Airport before boarding, asking if everything was all right. With the reassurance that everything was fine, Libby moved on and boarded Oceanic Flight 815”.

doesnt mean she was sane, she could have still been a mental at that time - mental diseases are in the mind, they dont always manifest themselves physically, impossible to tell im afraid

I can think of 165 million reasons Libby would like Hurley

I remember there is one point during Dave I think where Hurley questions Libby why a hot blonde chic would be interested in him.

Dharma: do you remember how she looked like when she was in the mental hospital (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Libbymentalp.jpg). She didn’t look that disturbed in the airport you know.

Also, I don’t know where the Santa Rosa Mental Health Institute is, but it’s NOT in Australia. So what was Libby doing in Australia?

that could have been the height of the mental condition she may have learnt to control it more by the time she was in the airport - or was she in fact acting mental for some other reason that we dont know, actually pretending to be mental

Kat like the idea about Libby’s husband being on the balcony when it collapsed. It would explain why they went to the same institution. Santa Rosa is in the greater LA area Hurley is there for the guilt and weight issues. Libby is there because she can’t deal with the death of her husband. If they were both in the same relative location at the time of the accident, it would stand to reason that they both end up in the same hospital. I don’t think Libby’s character is crazy at all I think she had an extreme nervous breakdown. after leaving the hospital she could have easily gotten a degree as a psychologist. As far as what she wants from Hurley, if she wanted revenge for her husbands death then why would she have kept him from jumping. That would have completed her goals of revenge.

I don’t know if Penny and Libby are sisters, but my gut tells me no, and as far as what Lib by is doing in Australia, no idea. great discussion.

I thought Libby said her husband fell ill…

I like this actually. I think if they are sisters then neither of them would know about it. Old Man Widders wouldn’t risk such a thing. On balance though I reckon its more likely that Libby was an employee who perhaps owed Daddy Widmore a BIG favour. And I totally buy the idea that she was sent to the island to be silenced.

Other than this possible background though I think Libby is the genuine article. I think she really did like Hurley and why wouldn’t she?! Not all women are solely into looks, just like not all men are into boobs. Hurley is a loving, intelligent, kind man who just happens to be a bit overweight. Libby was seemingly a nice lady who might have been a bit crazy but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t have loved each other.

First of all great theory! Secondly mrssawyer, what man isn’t into boobs? :)

I’ve been thinking about Libby and her role in all of this and she really seems like someone the producers through out there as a decoy. I think she may have been having an affair with Widmore or in someway been linked to Widmore Industries. I think she was put up to giving Desmond the boat as a means of keeping him away from Penny. As for her showing up in the institution she could easily have been drugged and institutionalized. Obviously she was released. I’ll pose that Widmore put her up to the Desmond thing then wanted her out of the way. Rather than have her killed he drugs her and has her institutionalized as a nut job. When she manages to convince the Docs that she’s nuts she finds a job offer/free trip to Australia. The return flight places her on 815 and the rest is history.

I just don’t think that she would knowingly gt on a flight that she knew would crash. Remember that the vast majority of people on that flight died. How could she be sure she’d not only survive but not be injured? And if she’s a part of Dharma why would they go to these lengths to get her there? They know where the island is from the food drops.

One thing that has always bothered me is that she and Desmond were both on the island for nearly 2 months and never saw each other. They would absolutely have recognized each other but through a seemingly chance set of occurrences they were always kept apart. First she was on the wrong side of the island when they met Desmond and then he disappears for two weeks while she wanders around in the hatch….

mrssawyer: If Libby can love Drew Carrey then why not hurley?? ; ) Oh, wait…did they ever air the Drew Carey show in England? Not sure how well that humour would translate…

Dharma: I like your theory a lot! Great thoughts! I don’t know if Penny and Libby are sisters, but believe that Libby’s back story will provide some key clues.

I would agree with the previous comments made, regarding the mental illness. I read an interesting article on Wikipedia, about temporal frontal lobe disorders. Very interesting! +1

Dab: what about temporal frontal lobe disorders?

Stip: I will have to go back and look it up, but it has a similar effect on people, as “the island” appears to have on our “losties”. I’ll check it, because I thought it was very interesting.

Okay, Stip: The frontal lobe (gyrus) which controls voluntary movements. It plays a part in impulse control, judgment, language production problem solving, sexual behaviour, socialization, and spontaneity. It also assists in planning, coordinating, controlling, and executing behaviour. People who have damaged frontal lobes may experience problems with cognitive function, being at times impulsive; impaired in their ability to plan and execute complex sequences of actions.

Now, if you apply that with a condition known as Reduplicative paramnesia, you have a whole new way to look at what’s going on! This condition makes the person believe that they are in another location, with all of the same people, surroundings, etc. They duplicate one setting for another.

In other words, this scenario could play out on “Lost”. Are the characters suffering from these maladies? And, does “the island”, really exist? I thought it interesting

Dab: could a plane crash have caused “damaged frontal lobes” ?

I totally believe the accuracy of the above information, but it sounds, well, it just doesn’t seem as full of drama as alternate timelines and experiments.

Stip: Yes, any type of brain trauma suffered, you could this, but it’s unlikely that it would happen to every single passenger.

I researched this information, some time ago, when it was being discussed here on LT, that perhaps our “losties” might be in a mental institution. I didn’t believe that they were, but could not ignore, that perhaps, some elements might play into the story, at that time. As the story has progressed, I think it much less likely, and agree that this concept lacks originality for dramatic effect.

Interesting, though.