Language Proficiency
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By ProfOzone
- Language Proficiency
- Created: May 1, 2007
- Last updated: Aug 14, 2008
- After episode: 3.15: Left Behind
- Status: Current
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I’m not sure if it’s important or not, but… Danielle and the parachutist do have something in common.
— ProfOzone
I’m not sure if it’s important or not, but… Danielle and the parachutist do have something in common.
The parachutist spoke a number of languages. Well… at least she knew how to say a few very important phrases in a number of languages.
Now, if you recall, when Danielle had Sayid tied up, she said “Where’s Alex?” in half a dozen different languages over and over again until he answered her in English.
Again… not sure if it’s important. But who knows with this show!
Mikhail speaks a lot of languages too. Maybe Dharma has language requirements.
kat: I only bring out the Lost trivia when I’m REALLY trying to impress the ladies.
pocket: Well, I suppose all of that could imply that Danielle and parachute lady both have Dharma connections but…
There are just sooooooo many questions!
they probaby just don’t know what part of the world they are in so they just start speaking langagues until somebody recognizes it. for the parachute girl at least. Danielle probably just didn’t know what nationality Syid was so that is why she spoke different languages to him…as for them knowing so many????? who knows!!
good catch.
the parachute girl looks like she can be related to danielle too.
but then why does she know who desmond is then??
tymles… well, right… both women say what they say in so many languages because they don’t know which will be understood. But who can do that?
Actually, I can’t imagine how or why Danielle and the parachute lady are connected. I just think it’s an interesting thing for two people to have in common.
Truthfully… there are many people who grow up in areas where knowing three or four languages is very helpful and not uncommon. (The US isn’t one of those areas, so to Yanks, seeing a person who can speak more than one or two languages seems especially significant.) That said… there does seem to be something about these two…
Kind of like how Danielle’s “science expedition” was armed to the teeth… seems odd…
C’mon Prof, that’s not fair! It could (and would) be very helpful to those living in the US to speak Spanish - they just aren’t encouraged to do so because of their xenophobic natures ;)
Actually, it will likely be even more helpful if you started to learn Mandarin in the very near future…….
lol…. Okay yes, Americans are generally opposed toward other languages… And that’s not just strictly English-speaking Americans either, this stubborn attitude holds true for many Americans who, or whose familes, came from another (non-English speaking) country and refuse to learn English, even though they live in a mostly-English speaking country (though we do not have an official language, like most countries do).
But it’s common for people in Europe and most other places to know more than one language. It is not a shock, for instance, that Danielle knew so many languages, being from France. Also, her job may have required her to know even more languages than the average Frenchwoman because of traveling and having to communicate with other people.
Naomi’s accent when speaking English sound British to me, but then, a lot of Europeans (Germans, French, Spanish) who learn English very well develop British accents when speaking it because it is usually taught to them by someone from the UK. (An obvious example- the British author to Harry Potter, used to teach English at a school in Portugal.)
So if Naomi is English, perhaps she WAS sent by Penny. (I found it doubtful all along that it was Penny herself. Please. Like she would do that on her own. No doubt she would send someone to check first.) But then, Naomi might not be English at all, she could be Dharma, she could be an other, etc. etc. We just don’t know yet.
They are quite similar maybe daughter of alex or summit. If the timeline theorys prove to be true
Daughter of Alex? What? Okay, I don’t think so, even if the timeline theories were true - and I’m trying to keep an open mind as I say this. Because Naomi speaks as though she heard about flight 815 on the news or something. Not as though it happened a whole generation before her. It doesn’t make sense that Alex, who is only 16 right now, had a kid, being Naomi, Naomi somehow time-travelled to the island now and said “No, they found the plane” etc. etc.
Just because Naomi bears a slight resemblance to Danielle or Alex doesn’t mean that she’s related to them!
I think the language proficiency in both women points to them working for Dharma. I’ve also thought it’s interesting that Danielle has all those jungle survival skills (besides the fact that its a joke on her name). As far as resemblance—I can’t make anything out of this, but the person I thought she looked like was Susan Lloyd (Walt’s Mom).
Hex: :-)
test: I have a friend from Europe who can speak three languages fluently, one more not so much, and he can kind of understand other languages similar to the ones he knows. I don’t think he could pick any random phrase and know how to say it in, say, six languages. Or, if he could, they would be very closely related languages, like German, Dutch, Danish, Flemish, etc…. none of the Romance languages because he’s not fluent in them. Other European friends I’ve had seem similar. They mostly know languages that are spoken in the regions around them, plus English. Which means hardly any of them speak, say, Japanese or Russian. Now, I don’t know what all the languages were that Danielle and the parachute lady spoke, but… I guess I kind of think the writers did want us to be impressed by them beyond, “Well, sure, they’re European.” But, of course, I could be wrong.
jazprof: Yes! THAT’S who I thought she looked like, but I couldn’t quite place it. Hm… that’s weird.
Okay, sure, most Europeans don’t know EVERY language in the world, I never said that, but they know more than most Americans do and that’s what people are forgetting. Just because Danielle and Naomi know a lot of languages doesn’t mean that there’s a connection between them. I already stated a possible reason why Danielle knows so many languages (she’s from France, so right there probably, French, English and maybe Spanish or Italian or something… and she worked in research on a BOAT, traveling and having to communicate with people of other nationalities… so she must have had to learn a few more langauges)….. Naomi could have her own reasons!! She doesn’t have to be Alex’s daughter or sister or related to them just to make it plausible. Yes, it stands out that Naomi knows many languages but who’s saying that she does? Maybe she can only say a few phrases in each language in the chance that she might crash somewhere where a foreign langauge is spoken? And in the world of Lost, it’s not too much of a stretch to say that whoever sent her (whether Penny, Dharma, or if its a massive con from the Others) probably chose her because she knows a lot of languages!
She could just be a random helicopter crasher! The Losties are not the only people to have ever come across and been stuck on the island. Danielle’s team, the Black Rock… Whatever makes those things get stuck there may have made Naomi crash, simple as that. But the thing that is MOST interesting (no, not that she can speak more than one language) is that what someone already pointed out, that helicopters are usually short-range means of travel… Meaning Naomi could be from the closest place out there. Hmm… Fidji?
I don’t know if I buy into the whole “Danielle is an Other or Dharma” theory, but Naomi could be… We think she was sent by Penny or is an Other but she could very well be a Dharma employee. Think about it- the food drop came out of nowhere. And Kelvin’s replacements never came but perhaps they crashed and died along the way (Adam and Eve?… Wait, no, Kelvin wasn’t there for that long, haha…) like Naomi might have died if it weren’t for Desmond and, maybe, Mikhail. Maybe Naomi is one of Kelvin’s replacement’s replacements. If that makes sense. But I don’t think so because I get the feeling that the whole Dharma thing was abandoned (but then, why the food drop still?) Ah, it hurts my head!
Whoa there, test, I agree with you! :-) I pointed out myself that it isn’t unusual for European’s to speak multiple languages. I also point out in the original post that the parachutist knew how to say select things in other languages, as you’d expect a pilot might be trained to say. (“Help me!” “There are other survivors!” etc.) I haven’t asserted any particular connection between the two women. I’ve just wondered if the writers intend for us to pick up on such a connection. And I still don’t know one way or the other.
Hey… I’m just making this up as I go along! :-)
I do appreciate the many good points you’re making, though.
Oh, I didn’t mean to come off as rude or anything! My comment was directed toward everyone, kind of, because I don’t see how just because two people can speak more than one or two languages automatically makes them linked. And then I kind of went off on my “further possibilities” tangent… or, more of a rambling rant, really. :)
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