Lost (By TheHolyStickman)
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By TheHolyStickman
- Lost (By TheHolyStickman)
- Created: Jun 28, 2007
- Last updated: Aug 13, 2008
- After episode: 3.22: Through The Looking Glass
- Status: Current
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“I’ll be updating this on a regular basis so keep checking it.”
— TheHolyStickman
Alright here it is. The big theory that everyone has been waiting for. I have tried to answer all the main discussion points on lost. Soooooooooo with further pointless introduction. LOST!!
Jacob
Jacob’s house is surrounded by the stuff that Locke put on Boones head, it seemed to have the same effect. Locke asked Boone what he saw, Ben asked Locke what Jacob said to him. Like the dream Boone was in, he didn’t know when he entered it and when he left it. Whilst in there Jacob says “help me”. Locke thinks that this was Ben. Ben doesn’t know what Locke heard because they were both experiencing different things. When Locke asked Ben “what was that” Ben was very vague as he did not know what Locke saw, so he just replies “that was Jacob”. Locke may have experienced the ‘Jacob scene’ stronger than anyone else because he ate some of the stuff outside the house. Locke saw what he thought he was going to see; Ben told Locke not to shine a light in there, Locke does, what would you expect to happen. Exactly what does happen! Ben puts lots of ideas in Locke’s head about Jacob so Locke begins to believe he sees Jacob. Ben knows that when he goes into Jacobs house that it is not real, but he still hears a man talking to him telling him how he should lead the others. Jacob is a metaphor he does not exist, but the monster (who I’ll talk about later) when he drags people underground e.g.; Locke, the monster is summoning them to the house, as Ben said “Jacob is not a man you go and visit Jacob is a man who summons you.”
One last point, the man who found Rapa Nui (an ancient island) was called JACOB Rogerveen.
Mikhail – Course Correction
There must be a reason why Mikhail just won’t die, I think I’ve found it. See Mikhail has to stay alive, because he is the opposite of Charlie, he has to stay alive for some reason that I don’t know yet. He is on a course correction thingy, if he must stay alive to do something. I mean c’mon “The pylons were not set to a lethal level”. My arse they weren’t. He doesn’t want anyone to know about this, perhaps he went on a trip through his past like Desmond did. My theory is that Mikhail will betray Ben and the other, to join the losties. He will then make some ultimate sacrifice (a lot like Charlie) and save everybody. Also I think that Desmond might have flashes of Mikhail as well now that Charlie is dead.
Locke is in the coffin
Everyone has been discussing about who is in the coffin, there are some facts I picked up on to prove it was John Locke.
• Jack cried, Locke committed suicide because he was unhappy with his life back in the real world, and wanted to get back to the island but couldn’t. Jack knew that he was the one who made him do it because he was one who got them all off the island.
• He changed his name because, he was trying to get as far away from his past life and Jack as possible. But Jack knew that Locke had changed his name. So he knew who it was. • The man in the coffin was very short, perhaps when Locke left the island his ‘condition’ had become worse, forcing doctors to amputate his leg.
• Kate didn’t want to go because her life off the island was fine. She had ‘he’ in her life (who may have been wondering where she was just because he cared about Kate) and she didn’t like the fact that Locke tried to keep them all on the island.
• When the funeral man asked Jack if he was a friend or family. Jack said neither, as he is not related to Locke, and their last confrontation didn’t exactly leave them as best friends.
• No-one turned up because Locke had no-one to go back to in his previous life and, if the things I’ve put above are correct, he didn’t want any fame from the whole plane crash survivor’s thing.
Four toed statue
If you look at the four toed statue closely then you can see that it was obviously meant to have four toes. But the top of the statue seems to have been destroyed. I have heard theories that Walt made it but I don’t think that is right, can you really imagine the lost writers doing that. Lost has always had a mysterious magical side, but not that magical. The statue is facing the ocean, not in the middle of the island. It is not the centre piece of some camp. From what we have seen so far of the Others I don’t think they have made it, they don’t seem like the four toe devil worshipers that may have built this statue. The rock that Sawyer and Kate were mining way back at the start of season 3, was from the four toed statue they are taking it down piece by piece. It is facing the ocean it may be a navigational point for finding your way around the island. Adam and Eve could have been survivors of the people that built it. Jack said they were about 50 years old, but the island is different it changes things.
Why everyone is apparently dead
Both Naomi and the original Sawyer stated that everyone on the flight 815 was dead. Now, logically this must be a lie, as if she was telling the truth, then they’d obviously be all dead. But, they both said it making it nearly impossible to be a lie. What if Naomi and Anthony Cooper both fell through into a sort of parallel world. One where the plane fell in the sea and everyone died and one where they landed on the island. The plane crashed because it once it entered the parallel world it was overcome with the sudden change, same with all the other things like Desmonds’ boat and Naomi helicopter.
What they are doing on the island
The islanders are on the island for a reason Locke has repeatedly said that everything happens for a reason. The islanders are part of a massive course correction thing. They must not leave the island. Ben knows about this, that’s what he was on about at the end of season 3. If you make that call every single person on this island will die. He didn’t mean that the people coming to rescue them were coming with machine guns and an A-Bomb. He meant that those leaving the island would set off a chain off events that would lead to a very bad thing. Most probably everyone on the island dying. Or everyone in the world. Ben said that the people coming were bad people, but he was just explaining it simply for Jack instead of telling him the truth which he would not believe. Now let me take you a couple of years into the future in a flash-forward Jack told Kate that we made a mistake and that we have to go back. They made a mistake, everyone except Kate and Jack had died. Locke was in the coffin. When Jack asks Kate if they wants to go to the funeral she says no, because she has been to so many already, the other castaways have all died too. When I say everyone dies I don’t mean a man going round with a sniper shooting everyone. They just follow a path once they leave the island that leads them to death. Desmond’s course correction thing didn’t matter really. It was just a for-shadow (I learnt that word in English a couple of days ago) of what was to come.
So there I’m finished. I spent ages on this so please don’t just minus it without leaving a comment. It might be a load of crap but please tell me what you think of it.
I’ll be updating this on a regular basis so keep checking it.
TheHolyStickman q: ) Chav it up
Key characters
| Short Name | Full Name | Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jack | Jack Shephard | 1.1, 1.5, 2.11, 1.11, 1.16, 1.20, 3.9, 3.22, 3.1, 4.10, 4.12, & 3” href=”/episodes/theres-no-place-home-parts-2-3/”>4.13 | 1451 |
Key episodes
| # | Title | Aired | Central character | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3.22 | Through The Looking Glass | 5-23-2007 | Jack | 1251 |
Holystickman I like the depth of your analysis a lot. Particularly your description of Mikhail as the ‘next Charlie’ so to speak. I think Mikhail definitely has the potential to betray Ben and join the Losties. Even though he has followed orders so far it seems as though he follows these orders because he knows he must, not because Ben tells him to but because he is otherwise compelled to….
I don’t agree that its Locke in the coffin though. I don’t think he will ever leave the island. I don’t believe he could be forcibly repatriated - he would disappear into the jungle or the temple maybe. Either way I don’t think he leaves the island. I also think if Locke had a funeral other people would come. Helen maybe? Rose certainly. Hurley definitely.
Last point from me. I think you are on to something about Ben’s statement ‘if you make that call etc etc’. His actual words are ‘Every single LIVING person on this island will die’. Now I find that statement very interesting and it has a very different meaning to ‘every single person on this island will die’. Why the emphasis on ‘living’?
+1 from me :-)
I really like the idea that the whole group of survivors is part of a mass course correction. Perhaps it could explain more of the flashforward… The Losties leave the island, but the course correction is acting to remove them from the world, either by killing Losties or driving them to return to the island. Jack is driven to his drugged state by the conflicting pulls to either return to the island or commit suicide., Kate is driven to a lesser extent to enter into a relationship of some sort with a “He” who is possessive, possibly reducing Kate’s interaction with the world to a suitable level, or setting Kate up for her own death in the future. The unknown man in the coffin was driven to suicide/was murdered in the sake of course correction. Perhaps women cannot have children on the island because the universe is working to prevent having to course correct another generation, the universe is attempting to nip the problem in the bud, taking out the woman and her child in one blow. The idea has potential. +1
@Stickman - You make some great points. +1
Regarding Naomi and Cooper’s comments about 815:
Both said it was found at the bottom of the ocean, but Naomi said it was found off the coast of Bali which would be in the Indian Ocean or West of Australia. Cooper said it was found in the Pacific Ocean or East of Australia which was their supposed flight path to LA.
Either one of them is lying (I am leaning towards Naomi), the writers goofed, or we are back to the different timelines / parallel universe theories.
@Jester - If there hasn’t been a theory devoted just to your observations, then there should be. That was brilliant. You should run with that.
@ shamballa,
It may be neither one was lying.
Flight 815 from Sydney has crashed more than once. The circumstances are slightly different each time. Everyone has been there before. Most of them don’t remember, but some of them are beginning to put the pieces together. Mikhail said he had a memory of Locke, but the John Locke he knew had been “para…”
Jack, in a split second, remembers something about Ethan. He remembers Ethan killed Charlie. This time he tells Kate, “not again,” and manages to save Charlie’s life.
Desmond has different memories of Charlie. Each one slightly different - one memory may depend on another. Each time something changes.
Someone else has suggested that Naomi’s picture of Desmond and Penny is slightly different than the copy he carried with him to the island, and and slightly different yet from the one on Penny’s night stand. (Although only one photograph taken - it was taken three, maybe four different times.) Something changes each time.
brilliant theory. the way the survivors seem to follow a path to death once they got off the island could explain what Ben meant when he said every living person will die. Also good point about Locke being in the coffin because that seems like a logical explanation
+1 from me;)
@Alice - Exactly. Good points.
That is why I wrote, “or we are back to the different timelines / parallel universe theories.”
Good theory, except i don’t think naomi or the original sawyer lied, i think the world is under the impression that the flight crashed and there were no survivors.