Suns babydaddy
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By wtfsignmeup
- Suns babydaddy
- Created: Dec 29, 2007
- Last updated: Aug 13, 2008
- After episode: 3.22: Through The Looking Glass
- Status: Current
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They could have picked a better day!
— wtfsignmeup
This is really driving me crazy and I will have to go back and watch some season one epis,but I don’t understand why Juliet told Sun the baby was conceived 53 days ago in D.O.C.
This makes it day 37 on the island. Sun and Jin have already had a huge falling out since she let it slip that she speaks English.
I can’t see how Sun and jin got it on after day 30 or maybe 31.
Now I know that a due date is not totally exact….but why use DOC as the actual title, if they were going to be so random?. To be honest I didn’t really think there was much going on between Sun and Jin until he returned with the tailies. I know this has been discussed before, but I had decided to go with it being a bit of lazy research on the writers behalf. But surely they have the link to Lostpedia! They could have picked a better day than day 37 for Sun to conceive.
I know Im going over old ground, but I felt like a rant :)
Key characters
| Short Name | Full Name | Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jin | Jin-Soo Kwon | 3.2, 2.16, 1.6, 1.17, 1.23, 3.18 | 265 |
| Michael | Michael Dawson | 2.22, 1.14, 4.8 | 300 |
| Sun | Sun Kwon | 3.2, 2.16, 1.6, 2.5, 1.17, 3.18, 4.12, 4.7 | 296 |
Key episodes
| # | Title | Aired | Central character | Theories |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3.18 | D.O.C. | 4-25-2007 | Sun, Jin | 92 |
| 1.17 | .. in Translation | 2-23-2005 | Sun, Jin | 62 |
Key events
| Theme | Relevant Episodes | Theories |
|---|---|---|
| Jin attacks Michael | 1.6 | 59 |
| Sun becomes pregnant | 2.16 | 155 |
| Sun reveals that she speaks English to Michael | 1.6 | 55 |
Hey wtf, I share your frustration. I did notice one odd thing on Lostpedia though. “Numbers” corresponds to days 35-36; “Deus ex Machina” to days 39-41. So we have no episode covering day 37? And in “Numbers,” Sun mentions that Jin isn’t speaking to her.
Perhaps the baby is not Jins….they hint at something between Sun/Michael in the mobisode. I know this has been discussed before, and the main negative was that Sun doesnt seem like she would do something like that…..yet she cheated on him before. Who knows?
i don’t believe that michael and sun had a affair, but watching exodus part 1 just when jin, michael and sawyer hop on the raft they say good bye to everybody. Sun and michael give a akward hug that could suggest they had sex. (probly reading into that one to much)
But having said that, the writers of lost are not dumb and they would of delibretly chose day 37 as the D.O.C. and we may find out in a future flashback.
I suspect a flashback will reveal what happened on the missing days 37/38. I think it will turn out that just because Jin wasn’t speaking to Sun doesn’t mean they didn’t have sex. If she caught him during the middle of the night, he wouldn’t care if he was mad at her or not, and I won’t elaborate any further .
Or…. Juliet could be lying about the DOC? It’s driving me crazy too!! +1
please ozz….elaborate ;)))
Maybe the episode titles are the clue—we shouldn’t be paying attention to the number(s) of days since conception, but just accept the pregnancy as a Deus ex machina. :-)
wtf, I was even going to write a theory once about the timelines,but abandoned the idea because it seemed way to complicated to explain the way I wanted to! Anyway,here goes…. I will try to make as brief as possible. ha ha.To begin if you go with the actual timeline of the days on the island,the day of the crash was, day 1 /Wed.9/22/04 & the last day they have brought us to day 93/ Thur.12/23/04 TTLG. I made up calendars of each month to see which days coincided with each episode. Well it seems as if there have been days when you go thru the actual time-line that ,we don’t know what happened!
There are 6 days in October ,1 day in November & 2 days in December. Anyway I have always thought that they were left out intentionally ,in order to fill in the gaps later…..If you are still with me The episode D.O.C. was 3.18,was their day 88,(Juliet said 90),so when Sun told Juliet that she thought that she conceived 53 days ago ,that would have made the date October 26th,day 35 which is the date on the timeline. But if you use Juliet’s 90 days-53 days ago,it makes the date Oct. 28th,which by the timeline shows that we don’t know what happened on those dates.
Now finally my point is that in the episode ” In Translation” (day 34)that is where everyone learns,including Jin that Sun speaks English,which does cause the rift between them. At the very end of that episode though it shows Sun alone on the beach removing the blanket from herself & wearing a bikini. She then starts wading into the ocean smiling…. Jin & Sun Together again….day 28 or 29 of October? Day 90 - 53 days ago puts the date as 10/28-29 Around day 37 Sorry If this confused you even more.. even my head hurts. ;-)
I just realized that i could have made this a lot shorter if I had just said the time-line for October does not show what happened on day 37 or 38. Hah I even considered not posting this,but I took waaaay too much time on it not to :-) + 1
Heh, After taking another look at the comments,I see that Ms. ozzig said the same thing I did, but it took her a lot fewer words to do it in. Which is a good thing. I just took so long to write it I didn’t see it till after I posted mine. LMAO
WTF, I wondered about the dates as well! I do think that Jin is the papa, though, but I suspect there is a twist involved somehow, but am not sure what. Good thoughts! +1
Wtf:
I wrote this theory a few weeks ago on how I was convinced that Michael was going to turn out to be the father of Sun’s baby.
http://lost-theories.com/theories/2007/dec/11/father-suns-baby/
Yes, I was convinced. And that theory was before the latest mobisode. Now, I am not so sure anymore even though it adds plausibility to my theory.
The thing is; I remember reading a while back that we probably wouldn’t find out the identity of the father until the series final or close to it. And I think that will be the case.(I’m trying to remember where I read it. Does anyone remember hearing this?) Now it seems to make sense as to why the PTB would state that. They are purposely feeding us multiple possibilities Jin, Jae or Michael. Right now I think it comes down to which possibility you want to invest in even though they can all be argued for or against being the father. If you read my original theory and replies you will see what I mean. So, I think I am throwing the towel in on this one until we get more evidence.
And yes I agree… It’s all very frustrating :(
Sally, Did you read my comment that is above this one? In it I have pointed out that there are days in the timeline http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Timeline that we have not been shown. Two of the days are 37 & 38 in October,which match the timeline of when Sun conceived. At first I believed that yes that makes Jin the father. Now I am not so sure that it might not be Michael,after seeing the last mobisode.especially,when her and Michael almost kiss. Hmmm
A good example of not being shown something on a particular day is: day 64 “Two for the Road” Episode 2.20 The day Hurley was going to take Libby for a picnic on the beach.Well,now we see via mobisode #2 that Hurley had a little conversation with Frogurt when he went back to get the wine, and we also know what happened to Libby when she went back for the Blanket,she was shot by Michael.The scene with Hurley & Frogurt took place, we just had not been shown it. We will probably be shown other days from past seasons as well in upcoming stories.
SallySlingshot…my apologies You had covered this topic and much more in your own post.
Thanks to the rest of you for your input.. I also think the baby must be jins…Sun looked too relieved when she found out it was conceived on island. I just think they should have made the DOC another day.
Good points KSJ, and as Ozz said,maybe it didnt matter that he was mad at her at the time :)
wtf, I’m placing my bet on Jin being the Daddy , I agree that she was relieved to find out it was Jin’s baby…. but that is not saying that she didn’t perhaps get close with Michael.
Hi Kate:
Yes, I did read it and it looks like we may share in the same feeling that the writers are basically driving us all crazy.
Could Jin be the father? Yes
Could Jae be the father? Yes
Could Michael be the father? Yes
I can provide strong arguements now for all 3 of them. So, I am no longer convinced of one over the other.
No other show in history has made me this nuts… But in a good way :)
Sally, Truer words never spoken ;-)
wtf: Not a problem, no need to apologize.
wtf and kate: well, I am hoping Jin is the father :) but I still think there is a possibility that the tears she shed could mean something completely different based on the story of the flashbacks.
My first choice is still Jin.. My last choice is actually Mickael, they might have had an “almost” but I believe that would have been it. My second choice is Jae, that Juliette lied in order to lead Sun into believing she would die if she didn’t get off the island, a manipulative tactic.
Well, as all of you have pointed out, we’ll just have to wait and see ! Or at least wait until they drop another tidbit so we can debate it all over again with something new.
I don’t think the father is Michael. Jin is too happy to find out that conception happened on the island. She was very worried about finding out that it occured before they were on the island. She says to Juliet that she was with another man before bieng on the island.
But is Juliet telling the truth about the 53 days? When Jack asks Sun about morning sickness, she says “Not any more”. But she should be at the peak of morning sickness… unless conception occured before. That being said, things on the island are not always as expected… In fact, Juliet going back to the camp to look for pregnant women is a bit odd… unless she somehow caused these pregnancies to occur.