CF: NOT a Theory-Thoughts re: LT site
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By jazprof
- CF: NOT a Theory-Thoughts re: LT site
- Created: Aug 18, 2007
- Last updated: Aug 14, 2008
- After episode: 3.22: Through The Looking Glass
- Status: Current
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Morning my ‘ol LT pals. Had a thought about CF that I wanted to pass on.
I’m really loving the whole CF on the LT thread thang. I love hanging out with you guys, and as we were saying last night, it would be so awesome if we could be doing it face to face. I feel so close to all of you and relaxed with all of you that I forget sometimes that we aren’t actually doing that. But then I do remember that there are trolls sometimes—trolls who whisk perfectly good theories to the debunked category for instance. And that reminds me that the internet is not always the most safe place.
That’s something I’m working on keeping in the back of my head anyway and wanted to share with my buddies.
jp, are we the official morning crew or what?
Jaz: Thanks for sharing, feel close to all of you as well, even though I missed yesterdays CF. I did manage to browse through most of it and had a good laugh, wished I were there, but do know what you mean.
kat: an L-T cruise, what a great thing to save my money for!!! I’ve never been on a cruise and since my divorce, haven’t really been anywhere.
lockeko: did you ever make it to CF? I didn’t read down to the end, it seemed to be breaking up, so I stopped reading? And yes, I guess we are the morning crew. lol
I made and closed it down while ago. Right back at ya freckles. Hope the burns are healing well.
yup—morning crew…sometimes I wish I could sleep in; I always seem to wake up as soon as it’s light regardless. But then again I sort of enjoy being the morning crew :-)
Jaz: did we cross the line?
Stipper, I think its a little too late to ask that question now. But don’t worry about it. Remember regret over acting is much more tolerable than regret over inaction.
lockeko: I’ve read your comment twice now and am still trying to decipher its meaning.
“…regret over acting is much more tolerable than regret over inaction.”
Is that a lockekoism, or from some famous philosopher? It sounds deep, but over my head. Help me, brotha…
Its probably a really bad attempt at sounding deep. I think I need Jaz or Prof to explain what I meant. They’re the educators around here. I’m just the security system
Yeah I guss at the end of the day regret just doesn’t bother me much. Either do or don’t but don’t worry about either. Thats my motto
I think Kat is right. It’s very debatable. And I don’t think there is a definitive answer for everybody. It’s more of a personal life decision that we all have to make.
stip—no worries. You are a great host, a gentleman and a scholar of the first order. I love you, man. Lockeko says it well. Mostly wanted to just put my own self-reflection out there. And I don’t want to draw any lines round nobody. Being one of those punk/hippie — let your hair down (or wear it up in a ‘hawk) types myself. Just having an eye toward the next get together and thinking about some of the less positive interactions that sometimes have happened on the board.
I love all of you guys (see how I avoided the “tm” there)—absolutely no criticism meant.
So, Stip, since you started us down this road, I guess I’m saying you’re the only one who can decide if the line was crossed. Well you and about the million other people who will read the thread.
lockeko: That’s obvious to all of us! lol
well played jaz, I like the way you think.
Do or don’t do, there is no try…wait, I don’t think that’s what he meant. Heh, well I guess I thought I understood–something like “It is better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all.”
thanks annie. I understand my role is not to figure out the mysteries of the island, only to try to keep out those who don’t respect its beauty.
nice shakespeare shout out jaz
Thanks for knowing what I meant to say. And I think the older I get the more I believe it
He’s too negative for this crowd, we are more of a Kan kind of group
I don’t think he was feeling phenomenal this morning, kat.
You are most welcome, my friend.
Jaz, I meant’ nice Tennyson shout out. Its been too long since college I guess. Sorry JP
Truth is beauty, beauty truth, nothing more
Jaz it is truly an honor to be considered your friend
work on saturday sucks. Now thats philosophy.
O man, if we are going to start with Keats I might not be able to stop….
OK—so we’ll have this emblazoned on something for next Friday:
O for a draught of vintage! that hath been/ Cool’d a long age in the deep-delvèd earth,/ Tasting of Flora and the country-green,/ Dance, and Provençal song, and sunburnt mirth!/ O for a beaker full of the warm South!/ Full of the true, the blushful Hippocrene,/ With beaded bubbles winking at the brim,/ And purple-stainèd mouth;
JP, I wrote a paper in my senior year discussing the different views of the two. Tennyson was all about going for it and dealing with disappointment, and Keats was all about the perfect image existing only prior to the actual event. I loved both poems. Ode on a Grecian Urn, who knew Keats and Tennyson would come up on a Lost site. I love this place.
Kat, nice rules of philosphy
Or in the words of the immortal Toby Keith, “I love this bar, it’s my kinda place. Just walkin though the front door puts a big smile on my face.”
I hope Stip comes back…
he will. he’s just thinkin’ right now.
jp why the -1? I guess thats one of the trolls?
heh, kat sometimes I think those two philosophers have conversations in my head :-)
l-k, it’s an honor to find my consideration so honored (insert infinite regression) :-)
yeah, Tennyson’s Ullysses could actually be Jack flashforward now I comes to think of it.
dunno l-k, could be, the morning trolls
trolls hide under bridges, tolls are at entrances to bridges
coincidence?
go down that road, please
l-k you mean the toll road? or were you talking about Ulysses=Jack
Its not a coincidence if the trolls utlimately get the tolls is it? Sounds like we need a billy goat gruff to deal with the morning trolls.
Ulysses = Jack, I’m not smart enough to pull it off, you are.
Kat, thanks. You’re not so bad either you know. Don’t tell the newbies about it though. They won’t cower with fear when the post bad theories if they know the truth.
as you are doing, kat. :-)
Well that poem is all about how Ulysses, having finally made it back to Ithaca, can’t stand it there and longs to be back wandering the seas.
That poem has a great line describing, well “being” I guess:
I am a part of all that I have met; Yet all experience is an arch wherethro’ Gleams that untravell’d world whose margin fades For ever and for ever when I move.
Went for a jog to clear my head…
I would appreciate it if you guys would flag Friday’s debacle as “not a theory” to take it off the main board.
Yes, I think we crossed several lines or moral decency last night. In fact I think we stomped on them, with a vengeance. And I’m embarrassed for any minors that may wander into that thread so I think the best thing to do is supress it.
Is there a way to delete it?
nice jp I think I see a theory coming. It might be oscar worthy.
lockeko: my comment 16 was supposed to go under your comment 12.
we can flag it as not a theory. That will work. How was the jog brother. Hope you didn’t twist your ankle or anything
sure, I’ll flag it Stip…dunno how to delete.
Jaz: I never interpreted Homer to paint Ulysses that way.
btw, I always took Desmond for Ulysses
Jack is the one we’ve seen in the future longing for his sea faring ways though. Plus jack is way cooler than des
ps i flagged it brotha
that hurts freckles
lockeko: dude, I was a div 1 collegiate athlete, back in the day. Can still run a sub :60 400. Ankle twisting is not in the equation, but will someone tell me how to get Jack or des or Sawyer’s upper body?
Desmond ‘cause of his boat, that’s where my head was at…
roids.
me either kat.
stip, Jaz’s comment was based on a nonhomerian work about Ulysses. If you stick with the Odyessy, clearly you’re onto something. But we were way out in left field in 19th century English poetry.
stip: I just flagged it as not a theory too. Hope that helps.
Annie Its now officially been moved. Shh. Don’t tell anybody where to find it.
stip and jaz: it has moved to the “Not really theories” now. So it can still be seen. Is there really no way to delete it so the kiddies can’t read it?
sorry, just taking a shower—yeah Stip I agree if we are talking Homer’s Ulysses, more Des.
Jack my be cool—as in more controlled, less likely to make mistakes, but I’m with kat on that one; prefer the mistake-makin’ Des.
Wow, stip, impressive running man. I do a lot of weights and martial arts stuff, but I could use more cardio. Just not a runner.
Too late…. sorry, I think I’m just going back to bed.
stip, i posted a final comment just now on the rahft. hope it sums it up for ya
Freckles I don’t think I’ve ever heard PMS and Jesus in the same sentence. You rock.
yeah I nominate kat for one of the LT Theologian Posts.
cardio—got to get out dancing more. I would dance more at CF but tis hard to hold onto the keyboard..
go wireless Jaz, it helps keep from getting all tangled up.
nice final thought puck/eko.
does that make me pucko
maybe next casual friday should be a theme party. I can’t wait for the halloween edition of cf
lockeko: just read that post - thanks man - that was beautiful.
anything you told me to be freckles. But If I’m left to my own devices, and we bar lost characters, I’m probably gonna be Falstaff or Polonius, depending on what kind of mood i’m in. If I go modern I would definitely go as Ricky Bobby. All are my heroes. And remember, shake and bake. Who would you go as.
no prob stip, it just seemed really appropriate. Lets just chalk that cf up to being a midsummer night’s dream
I’d either go as the Chevalier de Maupin: http://home.comcast.net/~brons/Maupin/MaupinSourcesDautheville.html
or Grace O’Malley: http://naval-history.suite101.com/article.cfm/grace_omalleyfemalepirate
yeah, lockeko—that really summed up what I was trying to say…you really found the right thing there.
so, how bout you guys (for the costume party)?
lockeko and Kat: you should go as Romeo and Juliet.
If that doesn’t work, how about Al and Peg Bundy? Peg was bi-located as Helen so there’s your connection to Lost. You just can’t keep that synchronicity down!
going to start getting some work done; checking back in through the day,.
later, my brothahs and sistahs
Indiana Jones for me….
heh, just one last thing…if you check out Grace you’ll see that if I went as her Desmond could hold me prisoner (always the Lost connection, Stip)
bye Jazzie.
Folks, its sunny and 80 degrees today so I’m joining Jaz and going out to be a part of what looks to be a spectacular day. Hope to check back in later.
Love you guys (tm).
PS: I re-edited the debacle theory to remove some names, looks like it needs to re-flagged.
Uhm did the “rahft” come back from the dead or is there an error on my browwer. Check it out. We may need to reflag it.
hello freckles, and have a great weekend
Morning folks!
I added my flag to it. I don’t see it now. .
Jazzie: I really love your idea!
And, as for the debauchery in Stip’s post, I guess that would be my bad! My apologies to all. I always take responsibility for my actions. What, I find disturbing, is that it caused Stip to have regrets!
Now, I must go out and clear my head, and use some mouthwash to get rid of that bad taste, left in my mouth!
I almost tried to join in on the CF last night, but wasn’t sure if noobs were welcome or not. I was going to offer up the chatroom at my quoteboard until you guys could get something else set up. It’s not a Lost chatroom, but this way you could talk about whatever you wanted to and not have to worry about the kiddies reading it. I have a small following at my quoteboard, but the chatroom is slow most of the time, so you all are welcome to use it as long as you wish.
Namaste :-)
dab, no need for you to worry. All in good fun my friend. thanks again
dab, ditto what l-k said.
And thanks for the offer laurie. I’m a noob to chat rooms but I’m game. And jump right in on the CF. The raaahft is much bigger than it appears.
Good Morning All!! I’m sorry I missed most of CF. :( But I had to work, and I had meetings, and I had to put my car in the shop, and blah, blah, blah… oh yeah, and I’ve been at my girls house all weekend.
And from the looks of it, I missed a good one! Sorry all. ;)
So what’d I miss? ;)
I’ll wait for one of the ladies to clue you in think, they were having the most fun from what I could tell
TT, I missed most the evening’s (eh hem!) revelry too. It got a little steamy near the end.
No worries though! Cool heads (if not fuzzy heads after a hard night) figured out a way to put it on the back shelf.
Laurieloop-de-doop had a great idea and offer. If future CFs start getting all “This film is not rated” on us, than we can high tail it to her place.
Thats funny…you mention a steamy thread and the word “tail” in the same post… naughty. :)
Your either getting your drink on for Saturday or have you mind in the gutter TT.
Cheers matey!
“your” even.
Guess I should take my own advice huh?
Im going to have to say both!
@ shamballa, I see you’ve already been to my Quoteboard. :-)
For anyone else who would like an idea of what it’s about, this a a good place to get an idea. http://loopyleaf.proboards43.com/index.cgi?board=whatever&action=display&thread=1119218328
The chat room, Loop’s Lounge, is rarely used. Go for it!
heh, kat….so now this is the Saturday night philosophy thread :-)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xrShK-NVMIU
I just wanted to apologize to all of you for mentioning where the thread went. Lockeko and I were posting at the same time, he was warning me not to say where, but I couldn’t see that because I was posting myself. I should have thought of it myself though, so stupid. I was truly trying to help you guys out and I feel terrible because someone has already posted there. I felt so much a part of the “family” here, but I shouldn’t have butted in. I’m really very sorry.
@ Annie79, is that about me, and about sham already signing up at my board? I didn’t mean to ruffle any feathers…just wanted to be helpful and maybe get a few new friends at my quoteboard. I’m not sure if other people are reading too much into it, or if I maybe offended anyone in any way. If that’s the case then I apologize and will go away.
Although I’m not sure what lockeko would have to warn people about. Again, if I overstepped and stuck myself where I don’t belong, then I’m sorry. My bad.
No laurie, and please don’t got away. And Annie, it’s all good. Actually I appreciated being able to respond to what that person was saying.
kat, that was a particularly odd one…and did you see it was in response to one about Descartes?
Hey, Ladies: I just left an apology to the individual as well, and for anyone else who happens to read it. My sincere apologies to everyone, who is feeling the burn on this one. I take full responsibility for it! Kat and Jazzie: I am sorry!
Okay…so I’ve started to think I’m a total idiot. I thought she was talking about sham posting at my board. Then I saw katrina’s post and started to think that I should have not jumped to conclusions. Thanks jaz, for not wanting me to go away.
Guess I haven’t been here long enough to understand what peeps are talking about.
And I’ll admit….lockeko scares me a bit, but he likes that doesn’t he?
laurie: Please don’t worry, it had nothing to do with you at all, I promise.
kat and jaz: Thanks for the kind words. This really has been bothering me all day, but if you’re truly ok with it, then I’ll let myself off the hook. I’m too hard on myself sometimes, maybe this was one of those times.
I really do love you guys and this site is my sanity!
laurie—sorry that should have been “Please don’t go away”—and please don’t! I haven’t even got a chance to check out your site :-)
dab, I am too (sorry, I mean), and no need for you to stand alone—I was there too. I’m not generally big on the advice-giving, but I think it’s probably important to forgive each other, and ourselves…we got carried away—those things happen. Can’t think of anything else to say, cept—I love you guys (tm) :-)
I think we ALL need a drink!
Glad everyone is cool with each other :-)
kat: drinks on me and thank you! But I loved Full House, why the drink???
laurie: You’re NOT a total idiot, that’s my job! lol You are very generous to offer your site and as for hoping to meet new friends- I’m in!
Is the apologizing over now? or should I go on…..
laurie, I’m sure lockeko will be so pleased!
I knew that was what you meant jaz…it’s cool.
And no hurry…my site isn’t going anywhere :-)
All this typers remorse is getting me down guys :-)
a change of pace then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuHWiJvM70A
Naveen Andrews Rocks!
Right back at you guys! I love all of you! You mean a lot to me. And thanks for your kind words, kat and jaz. Night, all! I, will not mention this again.
I agree jaz….I love it when Danielle tells him to “get down with your bad self”. The look on his face is great!
dude…I was just flipping through the channels, pissed off because they aren’t airing my Steelers pre-season game, and on USA, I see Matt Damon with a gun to Mr. Eko’s head.
jaz : They look like they have so much fun working together.
Naveen does rock ;-)
whoa—I didn’t know he was in Bourne Identity.
Yeah, kat, that little wink is so cute, and what happens with Locke!
wtf: sorry to get you down, especially since we’re all feeling so good now!!!
Thanks everyone, I really do feel better now.
jaz: lol I agree totally lockeko will be SO pleased!
Well night all, goodnight kat, goodnight jaz, goodnight laurie, goodnight dab, goodnight wtf. See you all tomorrow.
I too am off to bed,
night one and all,
love,
jaaaahhhhz
‘night annie :-)
Goodnight Annie :-)
And I was mostly kidding about being scared of lockeko. But I’ve read enough to know that he’d like that. :-)
laurie you have nothing to worry about. Hope everyone is doing well this evening. You guys should know I only strike fear into the hearts of newbies or to defend the honor of the ladies on the site.
Lockeko…..never change :-)
“stay golden ponyboy” live it WTF
merry christmas to all and to all good night
I already posted this comment on the CF thread but I felt the need to post it here too because I feel that I make a valid point. Feel free to tear it apart if you like. Namaste.
” I think that we all need to re-evaluate our reasons for posting here on this site. I agree that some lines were crossed yesterday, and I will also apologize for encouraging (and participating in) the silliness that occured on the rahft. But I think that it’s also important to realize that this is a site dedicated to “worship” of a fictional program that is aired on television. I was raised a Christian myself and served as an alterboy and subsequently as a sub-deacon in the Greek Orthodox church for over 7 years. I have since decided that this religious life wasn’t for me for the very reason that I like to indulge in the “worship” of non-christian fancies like the fictional Lost (over simplified…but I don’t feel the need to go into great detail as to why I left the church.) With that in mind I think that if you are a religious person that is offended by some random inocent silliness posted on a non-christian website you should maybe look for some religious website dedicated to the study of the bible on a level that you can relate to. I am certain (at least in the way that I have understood Christianity) that theorising about Lost would be considered blasphemous and bordering on idolatry. I understand if you get offended when someone quotes the bible to justify typing silly words - but please remember that none of the things that we typed into our computers actually occured in “real life.” They are just words - and none of those words were typed with the intent ot harm or offend. Again - I do apologize if anyone was offended but it was all in good fun and, with all due respect, we don’t really have to apologize to anyone for having a little fun. And as a side note - no matter how religious one is I don’t think that one should have the conciet to begin to imagine what “God” sees as intimate. These are words that mean very different things to different people. I for one feel that I can make a connection with peopel I have never met - and that is just fine. If you can’t or won’t feel that connection then don’t bother to interact with people over the internet. Sorry if this post sounded militant. I just think some people need to lighten up. Good night. :) ”
what he said^^^^^^^^^except I wasnt an altar boy mwahhahha
Yep Ive been drinking again…..so excommunicate me……;-)
LOL! wtf…I have a love for you!
Hey ….Im just here coz i love to talk about a tv show and my family just dont feel as deeply about it as me…..
I wasnt expecting to get to know and like people at the same time but its a bonus!
Totally! We are clearly the coolest lost fans out there! Great minds think alike!
By the way everyone…I really hope that the losttheories community doesn’t come across as “cliquey.” All new theorstis are encouraged and welcome!
Theres no clique dude ……its all in your mind (my impersonation of Hurley-talking to Arzt)
Ok ….Im realyy shate faced now…..logging out.
If you get drunk and call someone and say silly things, we call it drunk dialing. What do you call it when you get drunk and type silly things?
Amen to what Hex said. My real problem with the whole situation is the person that got offended didn’t even do so until after the post was removed from the main board. By that time corrective measures were trying to be taken. That doesn’t sit well with me.
Hex, Annie, laurie, wtf, lockeko: you guys are awesome!
And Hex, you’re right man, intimacy has a meaning that is vast. For many of us, we are separated by geography, but connected by the show. And as wtf said, our families just aren’t into it like our LT family is, so in that regard, that is our intimacy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZbYzoeWZh4
This site has saved my wife from hearing me rant and propose theories endlessly!! :)
Morning all!
I hope you all read my apology #115 from last night, it was meant for all of you, not just the girls. I hope you all feel the same way they do about it.
lockeko: drunk dialing is different, drunk typing is, as we found out, indelible. It’s a different world out there now, once you type it, it’s there forever. I still say there should be a way to delete a thread, Jeff would still see it, but at least it would be off the site.
Rag…..Ahmen brothah…..
maybe jeff can add a delete flag that only he controls.
stip: I couldn’t agree more. And right back at you-awesome as well! I live alone with my golden retriever, Clancy, and two cats. They’re great and I love them to death, but they just don’t get Lost. No matter how many times I try to explain what just happened while we watch together!!!
My friends aren’t into Lost, so when I found this site I felt like I had found a great group of friends who shared something that I was really into. But, I do feel the friendly banter has brought it to a whole different level of closeness that can’t be explained.
Annie, does Clancy have a high opinion of vincent? My dogs tell me that vincent, while pretty sharp, is not the secret to the island. Olive, my minature dauschund, told me that in one episode you can see Vincent gnawing on Artz’s dead finger. She’s pretty sure that makes him a dog and nothing more. A good dog, but a dog nonetheless.
Annie….trying to explain Lost to your pets could work…..but some animals are just pigheaded…..
Love you lots :-)
Morning all (wow these threads are getting long—maybe THEY are the cobra)!
First a quick response to what Hex said. I think the clearest way I can explain my feelings on the subject would be in terms of “Silliness: Rights & Responsibilities” as illustrated by:
Me, trying perfect my Jack Sparrow walk. I’m not sure how many people have tried this at home, but it does require a great deal of loose arm & leg movement. One is apt to knock over the occasional lamp. Sometimes I want to share my progress in this, and other, silly walks with my friends. Unfortunately, this can lead to the occasional tread on someone’s toes. My subsequent apology doesn’t have to mean that silliness is wrong (though my Jack Sparrow impersonation might be wrong, very wrong) just that it might be a good idea to practice, well, “Safe Silly.”
Hope the above did not do any further toe-treading. Sorry, if it did.
Stip, I like that Alanis song, and that is such a cool idea to include her hair getting cut as part of video.
So here’s the sad thing about my lost-theorizing and having found this wonderful place to hang out as a way to protect family and friends from my obsession—IT HASN’T WORKED! Now, not only do they have to hear about the show, but about all the great ideas I read today and what they made me think of, and you know, how this could have to do with an allusion to chaos theory, and so on, and so forth…. (You can see how I get lots of chances to practice my apology-skills :-) )
nothing but love ,jaz…….:-)
Jaz, wonderful as always.
many thanks wtf and pucko.
And of course, that was meant to be “Me, trying to perfect…” So much for the L-T best typist award. sigh
lockeko: Clancy, while a beautiful dog and a great companion, apparently has had no opinion on Vicent as yet. If he has, he’s keeping it to himself. But he will, at least, watch it with me.
wtf: Clancy must fall into the pig headed category then. lol
Jaz: the reason I posted the Alanis video is because I see you as her. Even though everyone respects ProfO to the highest apex, LT revolves quite a bit around you. And the street Alanis walks down in like the LT site. And all the people that interact with her are us: people from all walks of life, cultures, beliefs… on a common path: searching for friendship.
wow, I love that thought!
Jazzie: I echo Stip’s thoughts!
And beautifully said, Stip!
TO: Everyone: I have an idea! What if, on Casual Fridays, whoever does the post, posts it and “Mature Content” is placed in the title, and everyone that logs into the thread flags it to “The Offensive” category. That might work, and it wouldn’t be on the main page, when people log in!
Thoughts, all???
Stip, I am really overwhelmed by that comparison. Thank you so much. I don’t think I’ve ever received a better compliment. Really, …man, …all teary…
sounds good to me
someone needs a group hug >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<(tm)
…its a Stip thing ;-)
Everyone in the world deserves to be made to feel special. Remeber what I posted in “We Live 2 Lives” - I am approaching my 2nd life and don’t want to look back and regret not having said the things I always wanted to…
thanks to you too dabi…wow…
“You see everything, you see every part/You see all my light and you love my dark”
that “You” = you guys. Gigantamongous Hugs :-)
:-D
Morning Dab!
Stip, I too am approaching my 2nd chance differently than the first. way to go
Stip, I remember that post. You practice what you preach brotha, no lie. I admire you for it.
dab—might be worth a try, though 2 thoughts since the “Offensive” category is still easily readable: 1) still want to practice Safe Silly and 2) if I were a kid that looking for mature content that is absolutely the first place I’d check.
thanks to you too pucko!
why don’t we post the cf thread early and flag it about 3 pm as not a theory. then it will be off the main page at least. oh and we should only mention it in that thread
Jazzie: If there were ever two women that I would love to meet in life, it would definitely be you and Kat!!!
And, I had thought about that, Jaz, but thought at least it might stop people from becoming offended, even if it is kept to “Safe Silly”. We’ll work it out, though!
Morning, Stippie!
lockeko: That would work!!
dabi, the feeling is mutual, and yeah I’m sure we’ll work something out.
Heh… you guys are awesome…